| Let's Chat - A page for Aboriginal Families to link up with family members, past and presentIf you have information that can help the people below, please contact the editor with your information, which will be passed on to the enquirer and posted on this site to help others looking for their family history. The names are listed alphabetically. Click: info@mudgeehistory.com.au to send your information. Please quote the heading plus the enquirer's first name. If you have a record of your own Aboriginal family links, could you please contribute to this site to allow others to possibly link with you, or to provide information in the chain that leads to finding family information. For information on Diana Mudgee, please go to next page (click on bottom of this page). For an emailed list of Births, Deaths and Marriages Aboriginal records, please contact the administrator. Click here. This page is in rough alphabetical order to make it easy to find names, however, change of names within families is not in order. Also, ancestry.com now has the NSW Census for 1891 and 1901, which lists people as Aboriginal. So you might want to check and see if that will help you.I FIRST NATIONS FILMS distributes and creates award-winning television Aboriginal documentary films and videos for, by and about First Nations people. Our exclusive educational native programs are shared with schools, universities, libraries, organizations and other groups and institutions throughout the world. Please visit our website for a complete list and video highlights from each film. Buy online at the website.http://www.firstnationsfilms.com/http://www.firstnationsfilms.com/ Hill End Aboriginal Family Research http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/aboriginal/bularidee_tribe.php and http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/aboriginal/wiradjuri_nation.php Also, try these sites: http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research_guides/indigenous/index.html This site has a group discussion somewhere, so you can talk to other people researching their history as well. guides.sl.nsw.gov.au/aboriginal-australians Mudgee Local Aboriginal Land Council
AN INVITATION TO A DIANA MUDGEE REUNION
To Whom It May Concern. Hi my name is Beck Evans and I am currently planning a family gathering/reunion of the descendants of Diana Mudgee later on this year in Mudgee, I currently have a facebook page with approx 116 members and counting of descendants of Diana Mudgee nationally and those who have moved internationally. I am hoping that its a possibility that I may be able to organize a session with a historian with knowledge of the family history to educate young descendants and those who are unfamiliar on the history and if there is a price per person or as a group to have this done? I am basically enquiring to sort out some family activities etc. If my request is a possibility that would be fantastic. At the stage I'm expecting between 30-50 people in mudgee. Beck Evans. Beck Evans [beckevans@hotmail.com.au]
A Dreamtime Poem, Joi’s apology, by Rae Desmond Jones (c) 2013 CLICKThe poem is in Rae's forthcoming volume of New & Selected Poems - to be launched on 11 August, 2013 at the Summer Hill Hotel. It's the first in the book and our Let's Chat page has the privilege of a preview. If you would like to order the book, contact Rae on: raejones485@hotmail.com Hi I dont know if this the right contact, but my foster brother has died, and we were told that an Aboriginal person can not rest in peace if they are under the ground, but rather they should be in a cave on sacred ground or in a tree. We have his ashes and out of the greatest respect for him and his culture, we want to do what is right and respectful for him to find peace. Is anyone able to advise me of how to conduct a service for my foster brother that would be in keeping with his heritage, and to ensure that he is at peace. Regards Robyn ADAMS, FREEMAN, JONES FAMILY Hay there Mary Adams I am writing to you to see if you hold any information on a family I am looking for, I am searching for Mary Adams who had a child in 1805, This child Louisa was fostered to a Thomas Jones and Elizabeth Daily. In 1822 Louisa married a William Lewis aka Coxs, Two children were born Elizabeth Lewis 1823 and James William Lewis in 1824, Elizabeth married John Henry Cook in 1853, Louisa Adams/ Jones is said to be of aboriginal descent, But I am unable to find any information to help me find this, If Mary was servant to Thomas Jones why would she give him her child? I have been told Thomas fathered Louisa and Mary Adams was Aboriginal, Louisa Adams/Jones/Lewis left William Lewis and had a child with a John Hunter in 1833 her name was Hannah Hunter, Also Louisa is said to of married a man William Hanchett. He was 20 years younger than her and had a daughter to him. Her name was Ellen Adlaide Lewis, Louisa's daughter Elizabeth had four children before she married John Henry Cook, John Henry Cook was a widower his first wife was Mary McKinley, These people are said to have moved from Pitt Town, Windsor Area to Mudgee, Could you help me with any information As I can move no further with my tree till I find Mary Adams. I look forward in hearing from you Kind Regards Moya Northcote/ Cook
ADAMS FAMILY WADE FAMILY Hello, I wonder if you might be able to steer me onto someone who might be able to help me with finding clues to family information from the 19th and early 20th century in the Mudgee district.I just have a few names. My Grandfather was Edward George Adams, he was born 1912 and died 1994. I believe he was descended from an indigenous woman named Sarah who worked on a property in the district and a noted horseman also named Adams. I also believe there is some connection with the well known Wade family. Thank you Simon Macks
Theresa Vera ALLEN see Charles and Rodgers family also Good Evening, Re Theresa Vera ALLEN, I have found the following entries in the NSW
Baker Good morning Diane, I'm hoping you may be able to help me with my search for answers to my nan's birth. The information I have is Her last name was baker, she was born in 1911? to a 17 yr old aboriginal girl. her father was a white man who had raped her. It was arranged by a lady missionary to take the baby at the birth. I have searched every where and can't find anything. Also she was born in south western NSW. Thanks Diane for your quick reply, all I have to go on is her name was Helen baker born 31 Aug 1911. She was given away twice and used a name Denana Gangsitana or Deanna. my grandfather called her the mystery lady and she took everything to her grave. She ended up in Tasmania later on in her life but went there from Victoria. That is about all I have except for her name then was Deanna Kelly when she had kids to my grandfather john Edward. I got her death certificate hoping there was parents or siblings mentioned but nothing. Under her mothers name it just has a number 064. I have tried to find what that number means but cant find that out either. thanks Tania
Bowral connectionI have been raised knowing I am indigenous and have been an active member of the community up here in Darkinjung country. My family originated from Bowral with the surnames – Thorpe, Bush (wiradjuri) and Thorne(koori - other). My great grandfather was known as Billy Bush and had a daughter to a woman called Vera Heinz.My grandmother was born around 1925 and grew up on a farm in Bowral. Vera Heinz also had two sons to a white man with the last name Heinz. Do these family names ring any bells for the elders in the Bowral or other areas? Info would be much appreciated! J Kind regards, Cherie
Budsworth Hi there, my name is Jo Rose and I am a descendant of James/Joseph Budsworth also knowen as Mudgee Jimmy do you know anything of this uncle of mine
Thunderbolt's lady: the Aboriginal lady bushranger Mary Ann Bugg in Cooyal, Mudgee. (See also Fred Ward) http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/bushrangers/mary.php and http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=thunderbolt&id=I01114 This is a family tree list of Mary Ward from Cooyal, near Mudgee, Aboriginal bushranger married to Fred Ward, the famous bushranger 'Thunderbolt'. The site has links to her ancestors, so should be useful for descendants seeking their family history, particularly the Ward families from the Cooyal district. Also seek information from the new site connected to the new book, www.thunderboltbushranger.com.au I am a great grandson of Jane McKINNON/nee BUGG.b,__1866 mar 1885 McKINNON. Robert.James I have done much research of the [8] BUGG children who`s parents were Convict James.BUGG.b,__23-10-1801 in Essex ENGLAND.. mar 21-9-1848 in GLOUCESTER NSW. Aborigie Charlotte. DERBY.b,__1813 @ KIRRIPIT RAWDON VALE. Looking for Ward Wiradjuri family Dear History, I believe my family has an aboriginal ancestor of the WIRADJURI TRIBE MUDGEE and would like to confirm this. James Ward is the person who we believed to have had a relationship with an aboriginal woman we don’t have any history of him but I have his daughter Jane DOB 24/7/1826 DOD 22/8/1897 Mudgee. How do I go about confirming this. I would appreciate any assistance. Sincerely Sheriden Bird.
Ward family Hi Dianne, I am very keen to find any information on a BERNARD WARD dob 1841 at Gulgong, married Margaret Carroll at Gulgong 1878, and died at Bullarora Station Coonamble (Information Trove Freeman’s Journal 14 Sept 1878). I believe Bernard may have been aboriginal, he was the father of my Grandmother ( Catherine Mary Ward dob 31 March 1878 at Gulgong). I have been unable to find a birth certificate which could tell me his parents name s etc. Bernard is my “brick wall”in the family history, there has always been some unspoken mystery surrounding him and considerable intrigue re the circumstances of his death. Is there any way I can determine if Bernard Ward was indeed aboriginal and how do I go about achieving this information. My family all come from the Byrock, Bourke and Coonamble regions. On Bernard’s death certificate there is no record of his parents or any useful information. I would be grateful of any assistance you may be able to offer.... Yours respectfully. Lesley Russell Hi I have been told I am relation to Captain thunderbolt, Fred Ward, my name is Clinton ward my father is Craig ward his father is warren ward, how do I find out if I am related? Regards, Clinton ward
Fred WARD, Thunderbolt's lady: the Aboriginal lady bushranger Mary Ann Bugg in Cooyal, Mudgee. http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/bushrangers/mary.php and http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=thunderbolt&id=I01114 This is a family tree list of Mary Ward from Cooyal, near Mudgee, Aboriginal bushranger married to Fred Ward, the famous bushranger 'Thunderbolt'. The site has links to her ancestors, so should be useful for descendants seeking their family history, particularly the Ward families from the Cooyal district. Also seek information from the new site connected to the new book, www.thunderboltbushranger.com.au . But please note that there is controversy coming over Mary Ann’s death. New evidence is being published in a book by Carol Baxter, a lecturer in History at the University of New England, published by Allen & Unwin that Mary Ann actually lived 4 more decades and the quoted death at present was another half Aboriginal lady that Thunderbolt had an affair with. Baxter claims Mary Ann had 15 children in all and died as Mary Ann Burrows of Mudgee in 1905. So the story comes back to the Mudgee area and the family tree from 15 children in all should be quite extensive. Also see Gawthorne family. If you have information for Sheriden please contact the administrator on info@mudgeehistory.com.au Ward family Response from Kris: William Ward, half-caste aboriginal whose guardians are Anne and Richard Ward, Innkeeper of Muswellbrook, was born about 1836 and baptised 25. 9.1848 Parish of Whittington (49/1106) Also baptised on this day was Elizabeth Emma, daughter of Richard and Ann Ward. CAMERON/HANNAH read this page and thought it might be helpful to let you know that ancetsry.com now has the NSW census for 1891 and 1901 which lists people as aboriginal. After sooooo many years of family research into my aboriginal ancestry (from Yahoo Hill originally from Neurea and possibly the Wingawarra), I finally found some written proof in the census. There is a J Hannah living at the coolah Bridge with 6 males and 8 females in the household all but 1 male were listed as half cast aboriginal. May be of some help...
Cameron/Hannah/Magick Hi Diane – I’m related to the Williams’ from Home Rule, Gulgong and also related to the Camerons’ and Hannahs’ of Gulgong , Coolah area.
I have a record stating that Mrs James Magick believed to be Bridigit Ann Magick (nee Hayward) was present at the birth of Henry Shaw in the 1860s at Cobbora. Perhaps James may be able to shed some light on this for me. Kind Regards Daniel Parsons
More from James: My grandmother, Gladys EF Hannah, was born in 1906 at Coolah. An old fellow at Coolah told me the only 'black' side came from my great, great grandmother Caroline Droy. Cant find any info on her. He also told me he can remember old ‘Jack’ Hannah. And Jack had a blacksmith called George Hayter. Births of my great grandmother and her siblings.
They lived in the Coolah region at a place called Hannah’s Bridge. Help from Peter Henderson of Hannah’s Bridge. John Hannah known as Jack. John Hannah had a blacksmith named George Hayter Caroline Hannah nee Droy is reported to be of Aboriginal extract also. Nan’s cousin was an aboriginal man named Norman Roy.
Deaths of Mary A and siblings
4 x great grandparents I am the Grand Daughter of Lily E M Hannah and the Great Grand Daughter of Caroline Droy (Roy) and John Hannah.Also related to the Hannah's, Cameron's King's, Scanlon,s and a lot of others around that area from that time. I am seeking information of Caroline's family and her father Frederick Roy. Lily E was born in 1894 and died in 1967. Thank you AnnCameron Hi – Fabulous page! I am seeking information about the father of Christina Cameron’s baby Isabella Jane. There is no father listed on the birth certificate. According to stories told by Isabella, late in her life, her father was aboriginal, possibly half aboriginal, of wiradjuri descent. He worked on Christina Cameron’s landholding which was 4 miles from the Coolah Bridge school. She owned it in her own right – a pioneering woman right there! Isabella was my mothers grandmother, so this man is my great, great grandfather. Henry Edwin Horne was a schoolteacher at Coolah Bridge School and found rooms on Christina Cameron’s farm. Isabella was married to Henry Edwin Horne (Property – Oldcastle in Leadville) on 15 June 1895, so born around 1874 I think. If anybody has any information about that side of the family, I would be very interested in contacting them. Many thanks in advance, and good luck with your geaneology searches. Debby Brown Charles familyMy name is Daniel Parsons and I am trying to help my wife Melanie Parsons (nee Charles)with some family History research. William Charles and Sarah Burke m. Hartley NSW4894/1861 CHARLES Robert W WILLIAM SARAH A BATHURST 10472/1862 CHARLES SUSAN WILLIAM SARAH A MUDGEE 5217/1866 CHARLES SUSAN WILLIAM SARAH A MUDGEE 7977/1864 CHARLES FRANCIS WILLIAM SARAH A DUBBO 7996/1866 CHARLES JOSEPH WILLIAM SARAH A DUBBO 3 x grandparents 3766/1886m CHARLES ROBERT SHAW MARGARET S MANLY 10472/1862 CHARLES SUSAN WILLIAM SARAH A MUDGEE 5217/1866 CHARLES SUSAN WILLIAM SARAH A MUDGEE 7977/1864 CHARLES FRANCIS WILLIAM SARAH A DUBBO 7996/1866 CHARLES JOSEPH F WILLIAM SARAH A DUBBO Children 16200/1887b CHARLES SARAH A ROBERT MARGARET S DUBBO 15948/1889b CHARLES *WILLIAM R ROBERT MARGARET S DUBBO 12222/1891b CHARLES *HAROLD ROBERT MARGARET S DUBBO 12616/1893b CHARLES SUSAN Grace ROBERT MARGARET S DUBBO 28171/1895b CHARLES ROBERT H ROBERT MARGARET S WELLINGTON 4558/1896d CHARLES ROBERT H ROBERT MARGARET S WELLINGTON 27487/1897b CHARLES *CLIFFORD Clarence ROBERT MARGARET S WELLINGTON Can you please advise if you are aware of any of these family members in your details and if they come from an Aboriginal background. Thanks
A researcher has found the below for me and says that the Charles are Aboriginal through Margaret Sussanah Shaw born Pleasant flat near Cobbora. He also says that the Charles are related to the O’Grady or Grady family and he can send me a copy of the family tree. Also the Myler children descendants of Sarah Ann Charles and Victor Harold Myler are listed as having dark hair, Blue eyes and Dark complexion in War Records I have attached a copy of war record for you. Susan Grace Charles married George Vernon Appleby and a lot of the family is still around the Sutherland Shire in
I also found this record of Harry Charles a son of William and Alice - William Francis Charles appears to have married Alice Skillcorn in NSW. so it appears that all 3 moved to QLD for some reason. Charles/Appleby/Shaw/O'Grady/Myler family
Clarke Hi, My name is Dominique Clarke, I am trying to find information on my family that were born in the Gulgong area. My grandfathers name was James Copelin and my grandmother was Myra Isabel Kent. I have found little information on my grandmother , I know her mothers name was Minnie Kent and she married a Rhobe after my grandmother was born. on my mothers side is some what of a mystery. I truly believe that Mary or Kirby or Charlotte had indigenous heritage or either or both of their families had indigenous ties. It would be great to unravel this mystery and discover my roots. Thank you for your help and time in regards to my query .Kerry My name is Steven Prior. Marry Anne Cook is my great great great grandmother she lived in mudgee from around the 1820‘s alfred ernest singleton is my great great grandfather i am trying to find out where our aboriginal blood came from in our family history Hi Diane, My name is Melissa Evans, and I have been trying to research my nan's aboriginal heritage for over 10 years now. Her name is Janice Coward b: 7/11/1938 supposedly in merriwa d: 20/05/2005 in Grafton nsw. Parents on the birth certificate say mother : Rita Mary Sargent French b:11/09/1912 d: 09/01/1976 father Harold Clyde Coward b: 21/09/1910 d: 11/10/1989. I have been told that Rita was not my nan's mother, that Harold had a child with an aboriginal lady and brought her home in a saddle bag after she was born to be raised by them. My nan was subject to cruelty from Rita and her siblings because of this incuding racial remarks about the colour of her skin. I know that you are in the mudgee area but I was hoping that you may know someone who knows anything about my nan's mum. The areas I have been looking at are quirindi, tambar springs, walhallow, caroona, williewarina station, merrigular station, murrurundi, comilaroy station and basically anywhere in between. I have ony been given very limited information. No one wants to talk as 'It will open a can of worms'. My pop Harold was a drover who covered alot of territory and I was told that many aboriginals at the time took the last name of the station or property where they worked. Other names of interest in the family tree are French, Dowd, Perry, Callaghan, Dixon, Pyne, Wicks and of course Coward. I have researched these names as much as I can to no avail. There is no aboriginality that I can find. I am proud Kamilaroi. I hope that you can help me. Please email me if you need more information. Thanking You Regards Melissa Evans Hello, I am trying to trace a Mary Dooley. She had nine children with Samuel Bassett between 1845 and 1860. There is no record of a marriage and no death certificate. Dubbo/Cobar Aboriginal families Hi I just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading your site. I am originally from Cobar NSW. My mothers’ family Kilby/Callens are from Dubbo. My great grandmother is Matilda (Tilly) Callen. I am excited that with the help of facebook (bless it) I have discovered a long lost family of my mums side. Some still in Dubbo and some in Cobar. I am wondering if you have any connections in this area, as a starting point, to find out more information. I would be very grateful as I know my mother’s side is a large family but we have all become estranged and it would be so great to reconnect. Thanks so much for your time. Sharon GrayThe few things I do know about her. She was born around 1845 and was probably part a local clan within the Wiradjuri nation, I haven't found a birth or death certificate for her that I can confirm or a census document for further info. On her first daughter (my great grandmother) Elizabeth Ann Farrell's birth certificate she gave her place of birth as the mother as "Cloudy Bay" (Kaludabah). She had 3 children with Thomas Yavion a Chinese miner who's Chinese name was Yav Yen or similar and they lived at Windeyer. The 3 children were Elizabeth Ann Farrell who married Thomas Meroo Chick Willams , Mary Ann Farrell jnr who married Walter J Noonan and Thomas Yavion jnr who married Clara Grace Williams (Thomas Meroo Chick Williams' sister). Both her daughter's were married under the maiden names of Yavion though on their birth certificates they are registered as "Farrell". Thomas Yavion jnr's (Frank Yavion's father) birth certificate has his surname as "Yavven" with a double "v". I hope someone can help especially any info about where she died and where she is buried as I can't find her. Greig Williams. Editor's Note: Greig has been given a lot of information, some of which is printed below. Thomas Yavion’s original grave (Thomas married Maryanne Farrell. He died 1913) is in the C section of Mudgee cemetery. The Yavion family recently erected a monument there for him. There is a family story that Mary Anne Farrell was the daughter of an Aboriginal mother who worked for the Rouse family at Guntawang. The story goes that Rouse fathered Maryanne Farrell. Thanks for a bit more info on Mary Ann Farrell ...it all helps but I always had a feeling that I wasn't going to be able to go back further in my family history on my Pop's side than Mary Ann and Thomas once I confirmed the Aboriginal /Chinese ancestry ,I'll give Dick a call. I've got a copy of the Eaglehawk mine pic in which Frank Yavion identified his and my Pop's grandfather Thomas Yavion and I emailed some pics and documents to the Mudgee Museum earlier this year so you could put them in the Williams folder in case someone else was looking. It's interesting you mentioned the name Forrester as the last time I was in Mudgee the museum gave me some copies of some death certs and there was one for an Agnes Forester known as Williams certified by Clara Grace Yavion (Frank's mum-Dick's Grandmother-my Pop's Aunty) and it said Agnes was unmarried so I couldn't work out (and still can't) how Clara was her sister in law. I'd only just got back from Mudgee/ Windeyer earlier this year when my Uncle called to tell me Frank had passed away, he's buried in the same area at Windeyer cemetery as my family and just near his father Thomas jnr and I paid my respects a few months ago...I'm working my way through the Windeyer General cemetery list and there's about 30 family connections there. ...I would like to thank everyone for their help with my family search over the past 6 months,the info I got from the museum has been fantastic...Cheers and thanks again. Greig Williams
Hi Diane, Just an update on my search for my indigenous great great grandmother Mary Ann Farrell.
My name is Ella Gaffney (nee Cruz) and I was wondering if you could help me find any information on my Aboriginal ancestors as I can’t find anything; Aboriginal Great-Great- Grandmother: Mary Ann Farrell born 1847?? Father Farrell? Mother Meroo? Mary Ann Married Thomas Yavion (Yavven?) he was born in China. They had a daughter called Mary Ann born: 1871? Died 8 November 1936 she married Walter J Noonan in 1902? They had a daughter called Ella Mary Noonan born 1903 died 11 June 1945 she married Juan Cruz (snr) 1925, they had a son Juan born 17 October 1931 Died 29 June 1963 he married Grace Cole March 1951- then came me Ella Mary Cruz now married to Len Gaffney. Of cause mum & dad had other children. Not sure of any other children to the above mention; Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Ella Gaffney Editor's note: Ella has been sent some information and also advised to look up the Mudgee local white pages phone book because both the Gaffney and Yavion families still live in the area.
Mary Anne Yavion Walter Joseph Noonan Yavion/Noonan family Hi Ella, My name is Catherine White and I'm also trying to trace the Yavion and Noonan line, my Great Grandmother was Mary Ann Yavion before marrying Walter Joseph Noonan then their daughter Ella Mary married Juan Cruz and they had six children ; (1) Marie (now deceased), (2) Alberta (my mother now deceased), (3) Phyllis (living in Mudgee), (4) Juan (now deceased), (5) Carmen and (6) Juanita (living in Macquarie Park) My mother Albert June Cruz married Raymond Eisenhuth (German descent) and went on to have six children, I'm number four. I came across two marriage certificates for Elizabeth Annie Yavion (occupation: domestic servant) who married Thomas Meroo Chick Williams (occupation: Alluvial gold miner) on 24th June 1900. Thomas Williams father George was also a miner and his mothers name was Fanny Johnston, at the time of Elizabeth's marriage Thomas Yavion was a Hawker of Fruit and currently I'm still looking for information on Mary Anne Farrell. Also if anyone can help me locate Walter Noonan's grave as his death reads ABT 1879, what I'm looking for is his full date of death. He was born in Cork Ireland in 1820 married Mary Anne McCarthy before coming to Australia on the ship 'William Metcalfe" the information I have is that had a residence in Nov 1852 Luson? (could be Lawson) before he settled in Gilgandra NSW. Any information would be much appreciated, also I have attached 2 copies of Elizabeth Yavions marriage certificates, a copy of a charcoal portrait of Mary Anne Yavion (Thomas Yavion (snr's) daughter and her husband Walter Joseph Noonan for your research. Regards, Catherine White
Firth from Cassilis I am trying to find information on my Great Great Grandmother Frances Firth and her 2 daughters Agnes May Firth and Mary Ann Firth. Hi Judith I am searching for details of my Great Grandmother, Frances Firth, who lived in the Cassilis district and died in Mudgee on 22 Aug 1864. Frances gave birth to 2 children in Cassilis - Agnes May Firth (1862) and Mary Ann Firth (1863). Family verbal history indicates that Frances’ partner may have been a Wiradjuri man. My cousin, Lyn Moloney, has previously posted details regarding our search on your Mudgee District Local History website. I note that you have available Births, Deaths and Marriages Aboriginal records. Could I obtain a copy of these records please? Thanks, David Baker
From Shane Hailes on FIRTH FAMILY My name is shane, we have traced our bloodline back to Frances firth and have found information about john Taylor (white fellow) from tumut wiradjuri tribe he is also known to be from Wagga Wagga because of his hard work as a stockman and his cricket skills. In 1862 the year Agnes may firth was born there was an article in the Sydney morning herald 19 dec 1862, stating a known relationship between an indigenous man and a non indigenous woman from the stockman station in Wagga. john Taylor and Frances j firth were in a relationship. The documentation my mother has for Agnes May firth identifies her as aboriginal and Frances j firth as the mother, she also has documentation of john Taylor and Frances firth relationship, what we don't have is direct links from john to Agnes, his daughter. The second article states that in 1867 the argus (Melbourne) news paper 4th January an aboriginal stockman and a non indigenous lady from the same station got married in Wagga. This article very well may contain false information given the distance from the source and I think Frances j firth died in 1864, I'm yet to confirm that, I don't have the info in front of me for that. Mum is going to give me all the info soon so I am happy to assist as I have the same questions. Any information you can provide me as well to help would be great. Thankyou. If this bloodline has already been identified and john Taylor is known to be father of Agnes May firth could I please be past the information as we are stuck at finding any other proof he was the actual father of Agnes May firth. We are in contact with the baker decendants and they talk of john Taylor as the father, Frances and how the two girls were adopted by the mayor of Wagga a friend of Frances's, Walter sherry. Hope this helps and any help you's can provide me is much appreciated.=From Shane Hailes
Hi, My grandfather Bill Luck was a head stock man who apparently was from the Coolah area. The story is that he ran away with a girl that he should not have and unfortunately she drowned in a creek. I have no information at all regarding my grandfather other than the fact that he married my grandmother (white lady) and then joined the State Electricity Commission until he retired. While he was alive he never alluded to his Aboriginal Heritage and we never got to know his "other family". I am now trying to find his family who I believe originate in the Coolah area. I know it is a long shot but are you able to point me in the right direction in finding my grandfathers family? Thank you so much for any help or advice you can provide me. Mark Freeman FREEMAN, ADAMS, JONES FAMILY Hay there
TRYING TO FIND OR TRACE MY FAMILY MAGICK E GARDINER NEE MAGICK, MY GRAET GRAND MOTHER, HER MOTHER WAS BRIDGET A HAYWARD AND HER MOTHER WAS BIDDY SARGENT. HOPE YOU CAN HELP ME JANELLE LOUISE CLARK NEE GARDINER . Also see Hannah above.
GAWTHORNE FAMILY Firstly, thank you for providing this service. Yvonne
Information on Mawbey family and Jimmy Governor Thank you so much Diana for your help. I have taken on the challenge of tracking down all the MAWBEYS, and MAWBYS too, in the earliest days of white Australian settlement... I also have another blog which might be relevant to visitors to your website called JIMMY GOVERNOR FORENSIC. I am using that to try and look at what happened with the benefit of modern psychology. The link is http://jimmygovernorforensic.blogspot.com Best wishes.
Hi my name is Warren Hardy.I was wondering if you would know of anyone in the mudgee area that does family history. Ive been told that im aboriginal and trying to find out some information about this.If you could help me that would be great.thankyou for your time.
Sarah Emily Holland My name is Matt Alley. I live in Sydney. Recently some old family photos along with some birth certificates have surfaced linking my family tree back to the Gulgong area in the 1880's. There is a bit of a gap in the picture. I'll do my utmost to be brief. I have a birth certificate for a Sarah Emily Holland born Sept 18 1880. She was not present at registry on Nov 11 the same year. The birth certificate identifies Henry James Holland as the father; a 24 year old saddler/coachman from London. The birth certificate identifies Mary Jane Hickson as the mother; 24 years of age from Mudgee. However Mary Jane Hickson was his sister in law, married to a John McBeth. Henry James Holland was at the time married to Sarah Jane Hickson. Sounding like an episode of Bold and Beautiful? Well here's the wow moment for me... I have several photos of Sarah Emily Holland. Now... I'm not an expert when it comes to guessing people's ethnic background but Sarah Emily looks part Indigenous. I recently showed the photos to some ladies who are on staff in the Indigenous Studies Unit at the university I attend who themselves have an indigenous bloodline. They all concurred with my elated suspicion. From here... I do not know how to proceed. One of the ladies suggested I visit Gulgong and ask around. So by contacting you I am starting the process. I understand that i may be barking up the wrong tree. If so, please let me know. I will forward you a photo of my mysterious great, great grandmother . Kind Regards, Matt Alley
Isaac Kemp and Mary Hello, This is just a tiny piece of information regarding my descendants. My Grandmother Enid May Kemp was born in Coonamble. Her father was Herbert Ernest Kemp and her Grandfather was William Isaac Kemp. I read on this site that William was the result of a liaison between convict Isaac Kemp and Mary and Aboriginal lady. I have searched and searched trying to find reference to Mary or to find evidence of her Aboriginality but can't seem to find it. I could not locate William's BDM birth certificate. I thought I would email in the hope that Louise Kemp - who originally posted this info on your site, would have any additional evidence or help. I believe we are related and I would like to make contact. I would also like to honour my Grandmother and celebrate her heritage. Thank you Nicole Duffy Editor: Nicole was put in touch with Louise. Jim and Peggy Lambert Miners' Advocate and Northumberland Recorder (Newcastle, NSW: 1873 - 1876), Saturday 30 October 1875, page 7
Lambert:
I have been fascinated by your pieces on Jimmy and Peggy Lambert, the Bathurst Wars and Dabee tribe. I married into the Rogers family (I am from NZ) and my kids and nieces and nephews are very interested in this. You have some excellent sources of information. There were unsubstantiated rumours in the family of indigenous blood but nothing admitted to. So I have discovered the family is descended through Peggy Lambert's daughter Jane Lambert m. James Rogers and then through their daughter Lexina.I can find no mention of who the father of her children might be. Certainly not recorded in the NSW BMD. Ancestory.com has it as James Watts. This may or may not be so. Do you know where that information might be? Can I post and ask? Thank you in anticipation. Sue Fallon Editor - Mickel Cowie has answered Sue personally. He is preparing a detailed history and family tree for Jim and Peg Lambert, which will be posted on this site shortly.
Peggy Lambert aka Queen Peggy (c1820-1885) had two daughters to a white man who my mother Madge Cowie nee Green, wrote was named Mr Rose. The first daughter was named after him ie Rose. The second daughter Jane married a James Rogers and had a son and three children. Later when Peggy and Jimmy Lamberts partnered they had a daughter Ilene who regrettably died before she had any children. Seemingly Mr Rose left Peggy and their two daughters Rose and Jane were raised by Jimmy Lambert. He was kind and affectionate stepfather and they recorded Jimmy Lambert as "father" on their death certificates.
Peg and Jim Lambert descendants I am trying to trace my husbands aboriginal family history and was very excited to find information on Peg and Jim Lambert. They are my husband's Great Great Great Grandparents. I would like to make contact with the people on your site who would have more information on them. Wayne and Sue Riley For more information on Peg and Jim Lambert, see down this page more and for more again, click here
Jim and Peg Lambert descendants I am a descendant of Jimmy & Peggy Lambert born in around 1802 jimmy died 1882. Their children Rose, Jane,& Eileen Rose (b. abt 1848 d.13/02/1924) married John Green Was a servant to a family named Morrisons (Scotish-from the Isle of Sky) at Rylstone NSW. Alleged to have had one (1)son (1) daughter to the son Morrisons. The son possibly named George (Neddy and Mrs Murphy) Rose’s Children George, John, Mary, Janet, Jane, Sarah Anne Green (b.abt 1880) James, Thomas, Frank, & Charles. Sarah (d.28/07/1956) married John Sigard Hanson (md.Abt.13/02/1902 in Mudgee) then married Edward Dennison (Aft.1945 in Dubbo) Sarah’s children Violet, Muriel, Thomas, John & Olga Patrovia Hanson (b.29/09/1916)
Peggy and Jimmy Lambert descendants I am sending an email in response to this web page I found when looking through the Greens Family tree. Reading about Peggy Lambert and Jimmy Lambert who are my Great, Great Grandparents on my father side.It was exciting to read this family history that you have posted in your Mudgee History web site. My father Edward born in 1931 and currently residing in the suburb of Ashbury Sydney. He will be excited to find out more about his history as both his parents died of TB when he was very young his father died in 1937 and his mother died in 1938 in Kandos. My father became an orphan and then was looked by some families in Lithgow and later bought him to Newton, Sydney to live and grow up.
As you know everyone has a different slant on history and it is best to get as close to the original material as possible. Mum (Madge Green 1901-1972) was your grand father’s sister and they were very close, she spelt his name Gerred. When his mother Francis registered his birth she spelt it Gered and I notice you spell it Gerad... Francis also reduced his father’s age by ten years. Probably because George was almost twenty-five years older than her. In fact your G Grandfather George Green (Aka Morisson Lambert) was born 11/9/1854 and died at Lithgow 21/6/1942. Regarding the descendants of Queen Peggy Lambert this was collected by Len Brown and summarized in History Magazine published by the Royal Australian Historical Society in the September 2001 number 69 edition. This is available for a tiny fee plus postage. Ph. 02 92478001.
G’day Sue, I have mailed a CD today containing two folders. The first has documents and information on Mary Ann and Lily May Green etc. The second folder has Len Brown’s research,”History in Black and White” that was published in History Magazine. Some of the dates are wrong and some family members are duplicated because they were known by other names. But overall a valuable piece of research. I’m guessing that Wayne’s Dabee tribe line of descent was via Peggy Lambert c1820-1885; /Peggy’s daughter Rose 1840-1924; / Roses daughter Mary Ann / Mary Ann’s daughter Lily May who married Albert Riley etc. Is this correct? As you probably know the aboriginal Riley’s come from the Burragorang Valley Gundungurra Tribe. The Riley family story is recorded in a very informative book ‘Gungarlook” written by Ivy Riley and Jim Smith (ISBN 0959481656). It is available for about $25 from Jim Smith 65 Fletcher Street. WENTWORTH FALLS NSW 2782. I should be able to answer any specific questions you have about the Dabee or Green line. I am grandson of Mary Ann’s full brother George Green 1854-1942. Their biological father was James Morrison. Initially they used their mother’s maiden name of Lambert but later when Rose Lambert & John Green married and parented another three girls and five boys they used Green. Because of this family connection I would appreciate a copy of any additional records or information you find during your research. Kindest regards Mickel
Hi my name is Karen and my grandmother was Mary Anne Reilly and i am sure her mother was Liliy May Green born 1889-1962 and her mother was Mary ann Green 1871-1919 her mother was Rose Lambert 1884-1924 and her mother i think was Peggy Lambert 1802-1884 just wanted to know if anyone knows this for sure. Rose (c1840-1924) your GGG Grandmother had two children to a James Morrison my Grandfather George Green (aka Lambert) and a daughter Mary Ann, neither of these births is registered. Later Rose married John Green and had another three daughters and five sons. The girls were named, Annie, Jane, & Janet & the boys John, James, Thomas, Frank & Charles. Ps Karen are you related to Wayne Plows? I am writing on behalf of my husband’s cousin who is a descendant of Jane Lambert, who married James Rogers.
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Lawler/Smith/Buffet/Edmonstone/Gibson Hi my name is Alan lawler i live in yarrawonga / mudgee , i have been attempting to find out my aborigional heritage to no avail and would greatly appreciate your help. My great grandmother was aboriginal, her maiden name was charlotte smith, born 3/11/1989 - 1974 born in Forbes nsw. She married Sydney buffet born at1889 - 1966 . Charlottes father was richard smith born in1854 - 1924 her mother was Mary Jane edmonstone born in 1865 - 1928 she was born at spring creek near sofala, they had 12 children. Mary Jane's mother's name was Margaret Gibson's born 1843 - 1879 born at cherry tree hill ryalstone and died at sofala. Have no more info on Richard smith other than name, dob and death date. I know that either Richard smith or Mary Jane Edmonton have to be of aboriginal status as charlotte was. Please if you can be of any assistance to identify as to who was. I have searched this and other sites to no avail and am none the wiser.. thanks for your assistance and time, hope to hear back with some news... regards Alan Kerry Love descendants
Lynne Robinson gives some more information to Kerry: Suggest Kerry obtain gg grandmothers d/cert Wilhelmine Moore who died 2/11/1939 buried Rylstone cemetery with her husband Edward Samuel Moore. This I think may lead to Alexander Dingwell & Mary Ann Tidswell of Coonabarabran area. Her grandmothers name is Ilma not Alma and she died in Hawkesbury hospital on 11/5/2004, being born in Mudgee c1915.
Hi, My grandfather Bill Luck was a head stock man who apparently was from the Coolah area. The story is that he ran away with a girl that he should not have and unfortunately she drowned in a creek. I have no information at all regarding my grandfather other than the fact that he married my grandmother (white lady) and then joined the State Electricity Commission until he retired. While he was alive he never alluded to his Aboriginal Heritage and we never got to know his "other family". I am now trying to find his family who I believe originate in the Coolah area. I know it is a long shot but are you able to point me in the right direction in finding my grandfathers family? Thank you so much for any help or advice you can provide me. Mark Freeman
Oliver family Hi my name is Tracy Oliver.im trying to find out what aboriginal tribe i decend from.can you plz help.
Jimmy McDonald Hi I know he married Harriot Cooper. I do remember her but I would like to know where is is buried I also think he had a police funeral Mickel Cowie answers: I don't know anything about Tracker but have noticed that his name has been mentioned in a judgement re Warrabinga-Waradjurie that is accessable via Google using that as the search . Jules could read the judgement and contact the people who have made the claim. Mickel
Photo of the first Wiradjuri black tracker with NSW Police in Mudgee, James 'Tracker' McDonald. This photo was supplied by and is published with permission of the descendants of Jim McDonald, Greg Ward and his family.
Jimmy McDonald My name is Edwin McKenzie and I am the grandson of Jimmy "Tracker" McDonald and Harriet Cooper. I'm 65 now, living in Cairns and moving to Brisbane at the end of June - I would love to find out as much as I can about my family and descendents before I die. i would appreciate any information or leads you can give me. James McDonald
Editor's Note: I will forward any emails on to Christine Jimmy McDonald is also my Great Grand Father, my Grandmother (His daughter) Alice Valerie Honeysett (nee McDonald). Jimmy is buried in Mudgee Cemetery in the Salvation Army section. There is still family in the area. The direct Children of Jimmy & Harriet McDonald are: Jimmy, Edie, Doobie, Davey, Jeanie, Donnie, Gertie, Valerie, Dawn, Malcolm McDonald 80 still living in Toronto. I have a photo of them all together which I would be happy to share if you wish. Who are your parents, we must be cousins? Regards, Marina Honeysett Answering Jules re Jimmy McDonald – he is buried in the Salvation Army section of Mudgee cemetery Row B Plot 50. (unmarked still I think) He lived at 13 Perry St where the RTA now stands and was the last tracker at Wollar between about 1906 to 1919 living there in the trackers hut, then at Rylstone. his obituary. - Anonymous 20/4/1937(mon) Death - Mr J G McDonald - The death occurred of Mr James Gillis McDonald (66) of Perry St. Mudgee occurred on Friday night. The late Mr McDonald who had been a tracker in the police dept. for 40 years, passed away in his sleep. Born at Cobbora he had lived in the Mudgee, Wollar and Rylstone districts all his life. In his younger days he was a noted athlete, boxer, and swimmer and had won the famous Botany foot-running handicap. A well respected citizen, his passing will be mourned by many. A widow & eleven children survive. Funeral took place Salvation Army section Mudgee cem. Among those at the funeral were members of the local police force, who also acted as pall bearers.
Dear Diane, thanks for your email and yes I do have that information. James is buried in the Salvation Army section of the Mudgee cemetery and he has a plaque which was put there by his daughter Valerie . It is available on the mudgee cemetery website.
Please pass on email address to Jule , I too am a great grand daughter of Jim McDonald. His son James Henry Crawford McDonald is my grandfather Tanya Scrivener My name is Edwin McKenzie and I am the grandson of Jimmy "Tracker" McDonald and Harriet Cooper. I'm 65 now, living in Cairns and moving to Brisbane at the end of June - I would love to find out as much as I can about my family and decendents before I die. i would appreciate any information or leads you can give me. James McDonald Thank you for your great site
Diana MUDGEE Family HI, my name is Suzanne and I am 4th generation to dianna mudgee. my grandmother was the daughter of sarah knight. Was any children stolen from Dianne?,,,does any land still exist in my family?
Mullen/Riley family I am looking into my family background for me and my children. I have been told that I have aboriginal bloodline from the Mudgee area but am finding it very hard to show this. My Great Great Grandmothers name is Ellen Riley born in 1854 at Bara Mudgee. Ellen married my g g grandfather James Joseph Mullen.. Ellen's mothers maiden name is Gallagher. Just wondering if you can help me research my husbands family history or point me in the right direction.
Nelson familyHi Diane Hi there,
Nipperess My husband and I are hoping that you might be able to help us. I am currently tracing my husbands family, we are at present stalled on the Nipperess line. My husband Johns' Great Grandmother Martha Nipperess was born on 'Dabee Station' Rylstone in 1857. Our paperwork printout from BDM shows her father as Henry Nipperess and her mother as Sarah but on her Birth Certificate it shows his wife Margaret as her mother. We have a copy of a photo of Johns' grandmother and you can see that there is Aboriginal there. This is the piece of the puzzle that is missing and I would like to be tracing the right lines. I had been in contact with Links but was told unless we know that Martha was from the stolen generaton they can't help. Once again your help would be greatly appreciated or if you can point us in the right direction. Thank you and Obliged John Webster and Cheryl A Webster .
Mickel Cowie answers: “John Nipperess died 18 Nov 1930, aged 65 years, husband to Mary Jane, father, buried in the I doubt there is aboriginal there .... This is generation that is being questioned . 4th child Martha. 1. HENRY3 NIPPERESS (WILLIAM2, ROBERT1) was born 14 Dec 1826 in Rodbourn Cheney Wiltshire England, and died 05 Jan 1906 in Lue NSW. He married MARGARET COOPER 1848, daughter of THOMAS COOPER and EMMA ROLLINSON. She was born 28 Aug 1830 in North Richmond NSW, and died 19 Jun 1912 in Lue NSW. ii. ELIZA NIPPERESS, b. 01 Jan 1851, Cassilis NSW; d. 1852. iv. MARTHA NIPPERESS, b. 08 Jun 1857, Dabee Rylstone NSW; d. 26 Jan 1920, Lue NSW; m. JAMES COOK, 02 Feb 1875, Wollar; b. 31 Aug 1842, Wallerawang station NSW; d. 19 Oct 1926, Lue NSW. v. JANE ANN NIPPERESS, b. 13 Feb 1859, Dabee Rylstone NSW; d. 18 Mar 1938, Mudgee NSW; m. SAMUEL PICKETT, 24 Oct 1878, Lue; b. 12 Oct 1855, Botobolar NSW; d. 12 Feb 1944, Mudgee NSW. vi. LYDIA ANN NIPPERESS, b. 13 Nov 1860, Pyangle Lue NSW; d. 25 Apr 1919, Sydney NSW; m. JOHN WATERS. vii. EMMA JANE NIPPERESS, b. 20 Apr 1863, Pyangle Lue NSW; d. 13 May 1884, Lue NSW. viii. JOHN NIPPERESS, b. 05 Jul 1865, Pyangle Lue NSW; d. 18 Nov 1930, Lue NSW; m. MARY JANE SMITH; b. 1873; d. 1964. ix. ROWLAND HENRY NIPPERESS, b. 20 Oct 1867, Lue NSW; d. 1940; m. ELIZABETH ELSTON. x. ADA NIPPERESS, b. 26 Feb 1870, Lue NSW; d. 06 Jul 1941, Lue NSW; m. DAVID RICHES, Abt. 1905; b. Abt. 1868, Rylstone; d. 05 Mar 1960, Lue NSW. xi. GEORGE ROBERT NIPPERESS, b. 13 Jun 1871, Lue NSW; d. 30 Nov 1948. Re Henry NIPPERESS {also spelt NIPPRESS, NIPPERS, NIPPROUS, NIPPERAS etc] I don't know how long the message about the NIPPERESS family has been up, however, the following may be of some help to John and Cheryl Webster. Henry NIPPRESS (14.12.1826–5.2.1906) was a younger brother of Elizabeth and Thomas William NIPPRESS. (Our family is directly descended from Elizabeth Nippress). These Nippress children were all born at Rodbourne Cheney, Wiltshire, England a village now part of the modern-day town of Swindon, Wiltshire. Their parents were William NIPPRESS (27.4.1800–2.6.1882) and Martha FORD (1795–21.3.1829). William married Martha Ford on 26 December 1821 at Rodbourne Cheney, Wiltshire. William NIPPRESS was a convict, sentenced to death at the Wiltshire Assizes in 1829 for allegedly stealing a sheep. Martha gave birth to a baby boy, Joseph, but died on 21 March 1829. Baby Joseph survived until only 7 May 1829. Martha and Joseph are buried at Rodbourne Cheney. William NIPPRESS's sentence was commuted to life and he was transported to Australia on the Katherine Stewart Forbes, arriving in Sydney on 18 February 1830. The three surviving children, Elizabeth, Thomas William and Henry, apparently sailed to Australia in 1839 or 1840. (I am still trying to find out on which ship they sailed). William NIPPRESS married again at St Patrick's Church, Parramatta, NSW on 27 July 1841. His second wife was Bridget HALL, a nursemaid, from Ballinasloe, [Limerick], Co. Galway, Ireland. They had five known children. William died at Walbundrie, NSW near Albury on 2 June 1882. Bridget Nippress nee Hall died in May 1869 and is buried at Wodonga Cemetery, Victoria. Henry Nippress, son of William Nippress and his first wife, Martha Ford, married Margaret COOPER (28.8.1830–19.6.1912) at Richmond, NSW on 28 January 1848. Margaret Cooper's parents were Thomas COOPER (12.11.1805–15.12.1893) and Emma Camp ROLLINSON (12.5.1811–20.12.1889). Henry and Margaret Nippress had 11 known children: 1. Eliza (1.1.1851–1931) 2. Charles Robert (2.6.1854–2.3.1926) 3. Martha (8.6.1857–26.1.1920) Martha was born at Rylestone, NSW (probably Dabee Station as a lot of the other children were born there too). She married, or was the partner of, James COOK. They had 10 children. 4. Jane Ann (13.2.1859–18.3.1938) 5. William (1861–1928) 6. Lydia Ann (13.11.1860–25.4.1919) 7. Emma Jane (20.4.1863–13.5.1884) 8. John (5.7.186518.11.1930) 9. Roland Henry (20.10.1867–1948) 10. Ada (26.2.1870–6.7.1941) 11. George Robert (18.6.1871–30.11.1948) As you may know, Cooper is a family name that occurs in Aboriginal families in New South Wales and Victoria. The AIATSIS website at may have more information about the Aboriginal Coopers. Paltram Family Hi I'm Kiarna Paltram, I just found out not long ago I am part aboriginal and trying to get recognised, I have a couple of family members that have been recently recognised thought this might help... Christine Rogers (Aunty) Julie Eldridge (Aunty) David Churchill (Uncle) Renee Churchill (Cousin) Kiarna Paltram I am looking to trace my ancestors my great grandfathers name was James Rogers and he married Emma Strange on the 20th December 1876 at Bunglyumby. They had seven children with my grandmother Myrtle being the youngest born in 1890 at the new Burra Burra copper mine. There has been talk in the family that he came from the Cobar district but we havent been able to find any record of his birth. I was told that there could be the possibility that he may have been Aboriginal as Rogers was a common Aboriginal surname. I would appreciate it greatly if you could provide any information in relation to him.
Perram Family Hi just touching base with anyone interested in helping me with some of my queries surrounding my family background. I have spent some time extremely interested in some stories surrounding Aboriginal heritage from this area. My mother some years ago placed an add in the Mudgee guardian asking for assistance on the perram family. I know there was a response but with hidden family secrets of our past, some opted to discontinue contact & assistance to help. The story goes something like this; my great grandmother was Alice May welsh/ Walsh of Kandos who later married Robert Parlett. Alice told the family that she was abandoned at birth(left in a barn) & raised by the Welsh or Walsh family. Alice & Robert had a number of children & three of the four sons were dark skinned. I am the descendant of Vera Martha, a daughter of Alice. My grandmother passed away recently at the age of 91, unknowing her heritage. Her brothers passed away before her & two of her brothers travelled continually from livestock stations & often lost touch. The birth certificate states Zilla Perram was her mother & although the father on the certificate was her husband we do believe this is not true. Thus the abandonment. My great grandmother also had darker skin & curly hair, she was also a horsewoman. Family stories connect our family to Warrangunyah station. Through recent research I have read about the Wiradjuri people who are strongly connected to Warrangunyah. Zilla Perram was employed at the station & story has it that there may lay the answer to our heritage. My grandmother Vera spoke highly of an Aboriginal man named Uncle George, who played musical instruments at family gatherings. Any help forwarding this to anyone who can help me will be greatly appreciate this. I know my grandmother had a strong connection to Aboriginality as did my Uncle & this has followed through our blood onto me. Thankyou Roz and Thank you Diane for your very quick response & your help in passing this information on. I did get some of the information wrong: Alice May was cared for by the Besant family in the Kandos area however I believe the Besants had some connection to Mudgee. This family may have some information as to how they came to raise my great grandmother. Apparently she took on that name for some time while she was working. My mother said today that story has it that on the day she was married to Robert Parlett, her real mother walked in & stated she was not a Besant & she was her daughter ( Zillah Perram/ Welsh). Zillah Welsh gravestone says Walsh, so this is truly a tough one. I also read on some Internet records that Zillah had a son prior to Alice May named Aurthur H Welsh but cannot find anything on him. There are twins throughout the family & after discussing the shock of a son closely born to Zillah & James Welsh, we wonder if Authur & Alice may hav been twins? Just unusual Alice May was abandoned to a family we were told were well to do???? My G grandmother Alice May worked at Warangunyah & on her birth certificate her name is unknown, so one can only wonder who named her. Thank you and I must comment on how wonderful this site is. I love Mudgee & surrounding areas. We visited many times as young children & have returned some times in my adult life. Thank you very much
Hi Hi! Diane thought I would send what info I could about my family and what I am trying to find. My main initiate is to find out what happened to my Mothers Grandfather, His name was
Pitt family I am doing some family history research but have had difficulty anything about a woman called Alice May Pitt who supposedly came from Mudgee or the district and may or maynot have been of aboriginal descent. It states on her death certificate this and that she was born in 1889 in Mudgee but I can't find a record of this. This mystery has been haunting me for a couple of years now and I am hoping by writing to you that you might have some information on this woman.
RIDGEWAY - see Ward
Riley/Mullen family I am looking into my family background for me and my children. I have been told that I have aboriginal bloodline from the Mudgee area but am finding it very hard to show this. My Great Great Grandmothers name is Ellen Riley born in 1854 at Bara Mudgee. Ellen married my g g grandfather James Joseph Mullen.. Ellen's mothers maiden name is Gallagher. Im looking for extended family relations to the Riley family from around Dubbo Warren Area from the Wiradjuri mob, Elsie Jayne Rileywas my Grandmother. Elsie was born at Warren in 1909. Her mother was Francis Trudgett who married Charles Augustus Riley. There Children where William, Nancy, Charles, Rose (deceased), Arthur and Elsie (Grandmother). Im hoping to find more information on my family heritage.
Rogers family I am looking to trace my ancestors my great grandfathers name was James Rogers and he married Emma Strange on the 20th December 1876 at Bunglyumby. They had seven children with my grandmother Myrtle being the youngest born in 1890 at the new Burra Burra copper mine. There has been talk in the family that he came from the Cobar district but we havent been able to find any record of his birth. I was told that there could be the possibility that he may have been Aboriginal as Rogers was a common Aboriginal surname. I would appreciate it greatly if you could provide any information in relation to him.
Rush/Rushby family Hi, Thankyou so much for this site! I am searching for any information on my grandmother's mother, Pearl Mavis Rush, (also known as Rushbey, Rushby and Rushly) born in Murrumburrah around 1909. If you have any information or links that you can send, it would be much appreciated, thankyou, Trina Jackson
Rushby / Dixon family Hello, I am trying to seek more information on my family heritage. I am a descendent of William Rushby and Charlotte Dixon of around the Mudgee area. We have been told that Charlotte may have been of the Darug people, was married at 11 years of age and by an missionary priest. Any information would be greatly appreciated, we are trying to find the names of her parents or any siblings. Warm Regards, Kellie Butler William RUSHBY, son of Michael RUSHBY and Elizabeth HOLMES was born on 16 12 1831 in Doncaster, Yorkshire, England. He died in 1898 in Mudgee, New South Wales, Australia. He married Charlotte DIXON on 16 12 1851 in Mudgee, New South Wales, Australia. Hello my mother was born in Mudgee and lived in Rylstone and Glen Davis I have some photos and also would like to NFC some info my mother was a aboriginal granddaughter of Dianna Mudgee and her maiden names are Schneider and Potts thank you for any support that you can help me with regards Donna My name is Steven Prior. Marry Anne Cook is my great great great grandmother she lived in mudgee from around the 1820‘s alfred ernest singleton is my great great grandfather i am trying to find out where our aboriginal blood came from in our family history
Smith/Phillips Family Hi, my name is Paula and I have just started to search for information about my Paternal Grandmother, Margaret Smith, whose Birthplace was Mount Hope N.S.W. I have a copy of the Marriage Certificate of my Grandparents Margaret, (’ Niney’ as we called her) and Thomas William Phillips (Tom, who was not Aboriginal). On the marriage certificate it lists Kate Smith as Niney’s mother but Mary Smith as Niney’s guardian as she was under the age of twenty-one years (19 years old) when she was married on the 29th July, 1909 in Shuttleton. My Grandparents Niney and Tom had 9 children and Jack their eldest was my father, they raised their family in Carrathool and remained in Carrathool up until they both passed away. I read on the webpage that directed me to this link that the Wiradjuri People were divided into many Tribes and sub Tribes, is it at all possible to find out or could you direct me to where I could find out which Tribe my Grandmother Niney may have belonged. Any information you could provide me or direct me to so that I can continue searching my Grandmothers Aboriginal Heritage would be very much appreciated. It has only been recently confirmed that my Grandmother Niney was Aboriginal, with the passing of the last of our Aunties, although it had been talked about in more recent years our Aunties and Uncles flatly refused to discuss any Aboriginal Heritage with us. In anticipation of any information you can provide me with, I remain, Yours Sincerely, Paula Dunnett (nee Phillips)
Sorby Family Hi, After information on the Sorby family Samuel his wife Margaret son Willaim who was raised by a man called Bates and William moved to Bura Bee Dee Mission. Thanks Thelmerie, Nathan. Hi, my name is Annette and I am researching a possible aboriginal heritage from families in the Mudgee District. I would very much appreciate a copy of the BDM of this area. Thank you for your time. Cheers Annette Symonds
THOMAS FAMILY My name is Megan Thomas my fathers name is Francis rogers or Edwards my grandmother's name is Ruth rogers and grandfathers name is frank Edwards I am desperate to find yous please if there is any info thankuKALSARIA SAMSON from VANUATU. Hello, My Great Grandmother she's pure ABOROGINAL and married to my great grandfather KALSARIA SAMSON from VANUATU. We only knew our great grandmother's name LILIEKI or LILLY-EKI (don't know if the spelling is correct), but we don't know her last name. (that's what we are looking for). Great Grandpa was working in the sugar-can farm back in 1890 - 1905 and he bring great grandma back when he's finish working there. At that time, they live @ IMERE TENUKU (now known as HIDEAWAY ISLAND RESORT & Marine Sanctuary). They move up to the main land as now call MELE VILLAGE (the biggest village in Vanuatu) and up to 5000 people knew we came from an aboriginal grandmother and few of our uncles and aunties look like aboriginal. When i go around the village asking about 60 - 85 year old men and woman, they would laugh with joy saying she only speak English to them and she even teach them ABC coz during that time no one knew how to speak English. She is a very big woman, I've ask around my other uncles about Great grandmother's pics but they told me all of them got lost and damage during one of the biggest destructive cyclone back in 1987 HURRICAN HUMOR. I am still searching and would never give up till i find my grandma's family. Please help me!!! Thank you for your help and you're site is the best. Kind regards, Eric
Tattersell and Butler families my name is hazelle dorne butler my mothers name was dorothy margret peck. her father was known as roy burns the boxer but other wise known as roy tattersell , I know my grandfather was wiradjuri as I remember my mother and her sister came from rylstone if yoou know any thing plz can you email things my grandfather had a half brothe jack tattersell and a sister dianne formally know as carraiage or kearney my granfather later went to wollongong wadi wadi country
Walsh/Malvern/Barker/Ryan/Jolly I am researching my family history and have a large number of ancestors born in Mudgee or on Havilah Station at Lue. My father, grandfather, grandmother, great grandfather and great grandmother were all born on Havilah, a couple of whom preceded the White’s purchase of the property. I have 10 relatives of the Walsh family buried in the Havilah Catholic cemetery and my grandparents (Ellis and Mary Malvern) are buried in the Anglican cemetery on the property. I am trying to find out when one of my ancestors first came to the area and went to work at Havilah. I have spoken to Mrs White on the phone but she told that all the earlier records have been given to the New England University, she recommended I contact you. The story begins with my great grandfather who was born John Barker in Worcester, England in 1839. Family folklore tells that he came out on a ship as a sailor, then jumped ship in Sydney (I couldn’t find any records of his being a deserter in J. Melton’s book “Ships Deserters”. John then changed his surname to Malvern (his mothers maiden name). I was told that he met up with Hunter White, who offered him work in Mudgee. There is a record of a John Barker being in East Maitland gaol with Henry C White in 1964 – may be a connection? From this point on he was known as John Barker Malvern. He married Rebecca Ryan (nee Jolly) in Mudgee in 1877. They had 11 children, I believe all were born while they were living at Havilah. Do you have any records of early settlers in Mudgee? I live in the Southern Highlands of NSW so don't want to make a trip to Mudgee unnecessarily.
Looking for Ward Wiradjuri family Dear History, I believe my family has an aboriginal ancestor of the WIRADJURI TRIBE MUDGEE and would like to confirm this. James Ward is the person who we believed to have had a relationship with an aboriginal woman we don’t have any history of him but I have his daughter Jane DOB 24/7/1826 DOD 22/8/1897 Mudgee. How do I go about confirming this. I would appreciate any assistance. Sincerely Sheriden Bird.
Ward family Hi Dianne,
Fred WARD, Thunderbolt's lady: the Aboriginal lady bushranger Mary Ann Bugg in Cooyal, Mudgee. http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/bushrangers/mary.php and http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=thunderbolt&id=I01114 This is a family tree list of Mary Ward from Cooyal, near Mudgee, Aboriginal bushranger married to Fred Ward, the famous bushranger 'Thunderbolt'. The site has links to her ancestors, so should be useful for descendants seeking their family history, particularly the Ward families from the Cooyal district. Also seek information from the new site connected to the new book, www.thunderboltbushranger.com.au Also see Gawthorne family. Ward/Burrows/Wridgeway Response from Les RIDGEWAY[Snr]Re: Mary.Ann.WARD/nee BUGG.. I am a great grandson of Jane McKINNON/nee BUGG.b,__1866 mar 1885 McKINNON. Robert.James I have done much research of the [8] BUGG children who`s parents were Convict James.BUGG.b,__23-10-1801 in Essex ENGLAND.. mar 21-9-1848 in GLOUCESTER NSW. Aborigie Charlotte. DERBY.b,__1813 @ KIRRIPIT RAWDON VALE.Mary.Ann. BUGG had married three or maybe four times the famous Fred WARD[aks Cpt THUNDERBLOT] mar her I believe in 1869 at STROUD. When she died was buried at MUDGEE Cemetery is this correct ?.. Also Mary.Ann BUGG mar James BURROWS I believe but I found not details or children to him.. As a Aboriginal Family Historian researching two other Convict`s who mar Aboriginal women these were [1] Jonathan GOLDSPINK mar Margaret. REID [2] Thomas MAYERS mar Mary.Ann.PERRY a daughter of a white soldier named PERRY and a full-blood Aborigine Mum of Port Stephens. So having completed our RIDGEWAY family history dating back to James b__1550 in Great Horwood Derbyshire England his Aboriginal wife Sarah REED.b,__1813 in WALCHA they were the parents of four boys and one girl, their eldest later was known in Port Stephens as William [King Billy] RIDGEWAY I have his breast plate, also a photo of he and Queen Charlotte. I find these mixed marriages so interesting I hope to research much of those two Convict marriages I found out that the former Aussie Test Cricketer Geoff LAWSON his Mum is a 6th Generation of the GOLDSPINK couple. If MUDGE history has information of Mary.Ann. I would like to hear from you Yours Sincerely Les RIDGEWAY[Snr] Aboriginal Family Historian
Wally Washbrook I recently received a link from one of my brothers to the mudgee history website, that had an article about my late grandfather, Wally Washbrook in it. I am researching history of our family, and am particularly interested in researching Aboriginality, as one of my degree majors was in Aboriginal Cultural Heritage. I would like to know if the information in the article was directly from my grandfather, and whether he told you some specific contacts, more about his history, his grandfather's name and where on the Murray he was from. Our family has always known that "pop" had a collection of artefacts and a keen interest in them, but we have no knowledge of any Aboriginality although it has been suspected. I would like to investigate this further, as like my grandfather, I have been a Ranger, am currently a Teacher and have a very strong interest in Aboriginal Culture, and i am the Aboriginal Contact Teacher for our school. Any more information that you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Editor's Note: Karen and her family have been given information and photos to help with their family research. Hi this is my Gran mothers brother Wally Washbrook and I am looking for my family’s history and was notified by another cousin of mine of this website and was great reading about Uncle Wally, as I knew him I am trying to put together my family history and trying to research our aboriginality and running into not much information. I would like to know more if anyone has information on any of my family history would be appreciated. I also have no knowledge of any Aboriginality but it has been suspected. I would also appreciate if my enquiry could also be forwarded on to Karen who also has made contact over the Washbrook family history. Thanks for your assistance look forward to hearing from you soon. Editor's Note: Des has been put in touch with Karen. Hi Diane, I see in the Let's Chat section of your website, you have an enquiry about my Uncle Wally Washbrook from his grand daughter Karen. I was just wondering if you could possibly provide me with some contact details for her so as I could get in touch with her about some family history. Thanks Chris. Editor's Note: Chris has been put in touch with Karen.
Whaley family My name is Ellen Whaley and my father and I have recently been looking into my grandfathers cultural background. We believe he was part of the Wiradjuri tribe. We would like more information on our ancestors. The only information i can provide you with is my grandfathers name: Collin Lloyd Whaley, and DOB/DOD 11/5/1933- 20/4/1973.
Williams/Jefferey family I have an Aboriginal ancestor Ann or Anne Williams who married John Jefferey, a convict in 1848 at Aspley Mission. We don’t know any more about Ann/Anne but it would be great if we could have any information at all. My name is Karen Homans and I am trying to find out more information on my x3 great grandmother, Ann Jeffery (nee William). From what I’ve found out from other forums and web site's, she was an Aboriginal born in the Wellington NSW area. I also know that she married a convict named John Jeffery/Jeffrey/Jeffreys in 1848 at the Apsley Mission, Wellington by the well know Reverend William Watson. They had three son’s together , Henry (born 1848), James (born 1850 and my x2 great grand-dad) and John (born 1851). She also appears to of had a sister named Margaret Fitzpatrick (nee William), whom signed John’s death certificate. John died in Sydney where Margaret lived. I have not been able to find a birth or death year on Ann William. Any more information you can provide would be greatly appriciated as I really would love to confirm that Ann was Aboriginal and want to know what happened to her after having her children. Also, is it possible she may have had a traditional Aboriginal name such as Urana?? Williams, Henry/Harry I am searching for information on my father’s mother’s family. Her father’s name was said to be Harry or Henry Williams of aboriginal heritage in the Wellington region. Nana was born in Dubbo in 1905 (to Rosina (ROSE) Hall (born in Murga)), but her father’s name was left from the records, he was also reported to have been found deceased beside railway tracks at about that time or two years later somewhere near Wellington or Dubbo. I have not found any records of this but have been told that is was a ‘common’ occurrence. We believe Mr Williams was a Wiradjuri man but with all the movement of people from their lands and those also looking for work he may have come from further afield. I came across verbal information that there are two sides to the Williams family in Wellington area (European and Aboriginal) but that there is still a distance and mistrust between the two. We were told that my great grandmother and great grandfather Mr Williams were definitely kept apart by others. I travel that country at times (over 50 years) and it always feels like going home – comfortable in a strange way and I need to know where we once fitted in and understand more of what happened. Hoping someone can help unravel the mystery. Thank you, Kind regards, Kathleen Davies
Annie Williams Hi I have been trying to find information about my gg grandmother Annie Williams she was born on the nammia mission in Wellington N.S.W but to no avail. She married John Jeffery 1848. Thanking you Kay
Aboriginal Ancestors on Winburdale and Brucedale near Bathurst
Thankyou for getting back to me both Toni and Suzanne are related to me as well. Can you also tell me if you have any information on Sofala about a Trooper called Robert Lovell McDougall for me. Cindy
Can you tell me how I can find out about my family that lived on Winburndale & Brucedale near Bathurst? I believe they were aboriginal. My G Grand father Edward Thomas Wright was an aborigine and was killed at Hill End. His parents Thomas Edward Wright and Esther Matilda Smith were living in Sofala when they got married. How can I find out about aboriginal ancestors? Toni
Regarding Brucedale it was and is still owned by the Suttor family. it is at 1391 Sofala Rd Sofala. It is also the burial site of the great Wiradjuri Warrior Windradyne and is a heritage listed site. Steven Mackney.
Hello Wiradjuri Hello to your ancestors.This page is wonderful [www.mudgeehistory.com.au Wiradjuri Nation page.] Thank you for making it available.I am not aboriginal, but like to see and hear as much as possible about it. I met Barbara from Waterloo at my house...If I'd known about Wiradjuri then when I met her at first it would be better. That is her people.I am of 3 generations from Bondi, coastal of what they currently call NSW. Now when I hear that name, Wiradjuri.....the people are a part of my knowledge because of this extensive page...I wish I knew this history from the time I could read. Really, thank you very much Regards Bruce
Wonnarua History and Native Title I am interested in talking to you about Wonnarua History and Native Title. See our website below for more information about us. My contact details are below. Laurie Perry, CEO, Wonnarua Nation Aboriginal Corporation
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