Let's Chat - A page for Aboriginal Families to link up with family members, past and present

If you have information that can help the people below, please contact the editor with your information, which will be passed on to the enquirer and posted on this site to help others looking for their family history. The names are listed alphabetically.

Click: info@mudgeehistory.com.au  to send your information. Please quote the heading plus the enquirer's first name.

If you have a record of your own Aboriginal family links, could you please contribute to this site to allow others to possibly link with you, or to provide information in the chain that leads to finding family information.

For information on Diana Mudgee, please go to next page (click on bottom of this page).

For an emailed list of Births, Deaths and Marriages Aboriginal records, please contact the administrator. Click here.

This page is in rough alphabetical order to make it easy to find names, however, change of names within families is not in order.

Also, ancestry.com now has the NSW Census for 1891 and 1901, which lists people as Aboriginal. So you might want to check and see if that will help you.  

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Hill End Aboriginal Family Research  http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/aboriginal/bularidee_tribe.php  and http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/aboriginal/wiradjuri_nation.php

Also, try these sites:

www.nntt.gov.au

http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research_guides/indigenous/index.html

http://www.ausanthrop.net/

This site has a group discussion somewhere, so you can talk to other people researching their history as well.

http://www.ausanthrop.net/phorum/read.php?1,1565

guides.sl.nsw.gov.au/aboriginal-australians

Mudgee Local Aboriginal Land Council
PO Box 1098,
Mudgee NSW 2850
Phone: 6372 3511

 

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AN INVITATION TO A DIANA MUDGEE REUNION

 

To Whom It May Concern.

 

Hi my name is Beck Evans and I am currently planning a family gathering/reunion of the descendants of Diana Mudgee later on this year in Mudgee, I currently have a facebook page with approx 116 members and counting of descendants of Diana Mudgee nationally and those who have moved internationally. I am hoping that its a possibility that I may be able to organize a session with a historian with knowledge of the family history to educate young descendants and those who are unfamiliar on the history and if there is a price per person or as a group to have this done? I am basically enquiring to sort out some family activities etc. If my request is a possibility that would be fantastic. At the stage I'm expecting between 30-50 people in mudgee.

 

Beck Evans.

Beck Evans [beckevans@hotmail.com.au]

 

 

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Aboriginal Burials

Hi I dont know if this the right contact, but my foster brother has died, and we were told that an Aboriginal person can not rest in peace if they are under the ground, but rather they should be in a cave on sacred ground  or in a tree.   We have his ashes and out of the greatest respect for him and his culture, we want to do what is right and respectful for him to find peace. Is anyone able to advise me of how to conduct a service for my foster brother that would be in keeping with his heritage, and to ensure that he is at peace.  Regards Robyn

I doubt that this is right, unless it is the tradition of a particular tribe, because I have read of Aboriginal elders being buried in the squat position, upright, ready to meet their foes, and I have read of Aboriginal burial grounds. So I am not sure. I will send your query on to an Aboriginal Elder, who may be able to answer more full. - Editor


ADAMS, FREEMAN, JONES FAMILY

Hay there, Im doing the family for my mother and law who has been told that she has aboriginal in her family, so far I have track her family back to a Louisa Adams born 1805 and foster to a Thomas and Elizabeth Jones of Pitt Town. Im looking for records that she was of aboriginal decent and she was from. If I could get a copy of the aboriginal Birth Deaths and Marriages would be of great help. Also need this information for my side of the family as we have been told there is aboriginal in there but not sure where. Thanks for your time. Mick Freeman

Mary Adams

I am writing to you to see if you hold any information on a family I am looking for, I am searching for Mary Adams who had a child in 1805, This child Louisa was fostered to a Thomas Jones and Elizabeth Daily. In 1822 Louisa married a William Lewis aka Coxs, Two children were born Elizabeth Lewis 1823 and James William Lewis in 1824, Elizabeth married John Henry Cook in 1853, Louisa Adams/ Jones is said to be of aboriginal descent, But I am unable to find any information to help me find this, If Mary was servant to Thomas Jones why would she give him her child? I have been told Thomas fathered Louisa and Mary Adams was Aboriginal, Louisa Adams/Jones/Lewis left William Lewis and had a child with a John Hunter in 1833 her name was Hannah Hunter, Also Louisa is said to of married a man William Hanchett. He was 20 years younger than her and had a daughter to him.  Her name was Ellen Adlaide Lewis, Louisa's daughter Elizabeth had four children before she married John Henry Cook, John Henry Cook was a widower his first wife was Mary McKinley, These people are said to have moved from Pitt Town, Windsor Area to Mudgee, Could you help me with any information As I can move no further with my tree till I find Mary Adams. I look forward in hearing from you Kind Regards Moya Northcote/ Cook

 

ADAMS FAMILY WADE FAMILY

Hello, I wonder if you might be able to steer me onto someone who might be able to help me with finding clues to family information from the 19th and early 20th century in the Mudgee district.I just have a few names. My Grandfather was Edward George Adams, he was born 1912 and died 1994.  I believe he was descended from an indigenous woman named Sarah who worked on a property in the district and a noted horseman also named Adams.  I also believe there is some connection with the well known Wade family.  Thank you Simon Macks

 

 

Theresa Vera ALLEN see Charles and Rodgers family also

Good Evening, My name is Daniel Parsons and I am trying to help my wife Melanie Parsons (nee Charles)with some family History research. I am particularly interested in the Charles and Allen Families that came from Dubbo and surrounds. The family members we are researching are Theresa Vera Allen also known as 'Ma' Charles or Rogers as she remarried after her first husband Clifford Clarence Charles passed away in wyana bushfires.  we know that on his WWI record Cliff was listed as having Dark Brown Hair, Blue eyes and a 'medium' complexion. We only have oral history on Theresa being that she was a midwife that worked in Gulgong, Gulargambone etc.  We can find her birth certificate but no registration of death although oral history says she died in 1977.  Theresa had brothers including: Vivian Rudolph Allen, Robert A Allen, Albert Henry Allen. We understand that there was an Albert Allen in Browns Flat NSW in 1960s and are hoping to follow up on some info with Aiatsis.  liffords siblings include:  Franics Charles, Harold Charles, Susan Charles. All lived around Mogo Forest, Mogriguy, Beni, Wellington etc. Kind Regards, Daniel Parsons

Response from Judith

Re Theresa Vera ALLEN,  I have found the following entries in the NSW egistry of Births, Deaths & Marriages: -  heresa Vera C.  ALLEN  was born in 1904 in Cobar,  N.S.W.,  to parents Robert  and Mary ALLEN.    Teresa V. ALLEN  married  Clifford C. CHARLES in Dubbo,  N.S.W. in 1921.He died in 1926,  in  Dubbo.    Theresa CHARLES married Malachy RODGERS  in Gulgong,  N.S.W. in 1919. Malachi ROGERS  died in Wellington, N.S.W. in 1942. Another Malachi ROGERS died in 1982  -  district not indicated.    A  Teresa Mc/MacGregor  (parents,  Robert and Mary)  died in 1978, district not indicated.    I could not find a marriage entry for Theresa/Teresa/Rodgers/Rogers to a McGregor/MacGregor,  nor for a Vera  (just in case she used Vera as a first name)   As the Mc/MacGregor  death entry  is circumstantially interesting,  showing  correct names of parents,  I believe it is worth applying for the certificate.    and,  in the  RYERSON INDEX   I found the following:   Theresa ROGERS  -  death notice  14 Oct. 1978,   published in the Sydney Morning Herald on 19 Oct. 1978.   The entry further reads:   “late of Marrickville”.    PLEASE NOTE:  this entry does not appear in the NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages. Please note variations in spellings  Theresa/Teresa,  Malachy/Malachi, and Rodgers/Rogers  -  they are specific to each entry.   I hope there is something in the above information that might be useful to Mr. Parsons. Sincerely,  --------------Judith

 

 

Baker

Good morning Diane, I'm hoping you may be able to help me with my search for answers to my nan's birth. The information I have is Her last name was baker, she was born in 1911? to a 17 yr old aboriginal girl. her father was a white man who had raped her. It was arranged by a lady missionary to take the baby at the birth. I have searched every where and can't find anything. Also she was born in south western NSW.    Thanks kindly Tania Kelly  

Thanks Diane for your quick reply, all I have to go on is her name was Helen baker born 31 Aug 1911. She was given away twice and used a name Denana Gangsitana or Deanna. my grandfather called her the mystery lady and she took everything to her grave. She ended up in Tasmania later on in her life but went there from Victoria. That is about all I have except for her name then was Deanna Kelly when she had kids to my grandfather john Edward. I got her death certificate hoping there was parents or siblings mentioned but nothing. Under her mothers name it just has a number 064. I have tried to find what that number means but cant find that out either. thanks Tania 

 

Bowral connection

I have been raised knowing I am indigenous and have been an active member of the community up here in Darkinjung country. My family originated from Bowral with the surnames – Thorpe, Bush (wiradjuri) and Thorne(koori - other). My great grandfather was known as Billy Bush and had a daughter to a woman called Vera Heinz.My grandmother was born around 1925 and grew up on a farm in Bowral. Vera Heinz also had two sons to a white man with the last name Heinz. Do these family names ring any bells for the elders in the Bowral or other areas? Info would be much appreciated! J Kind regards, Cherie

 

Budsworth

Hi there, my name is Jo Rose and I am a descendant of James/Joseph Budsworth also knowen as Mudgee Jimmy do you know anything of this uncle of mine
i know he was arrested for horse theft but thats it. thanks. Jo Rose

 

 

 

Thunderbolt's lady: the Aboriginal lady bushranger Mary Ann Bugg in Cooyal, Mudgee. (See also Fred Ward)

http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/bushrangers/mary.php and http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=thunderbolt&id=I01114 This is a family tree list of Mary Ward from Cooyal, near Mudgee, Aboriginal bushranger married to Fred Ward, the famous bushranger 'Thunderbolt'. The site has links to her ancestors, so should be useful for descendants seeking their family history, particularly the Ward families from the Cooyal district. Also seek information from the new site connected to the new book, www.thunderboltbushranger.com.au But please note that there is controversy coming over Mary Ann’s death. New evidence is being published in a book by Carol Baxter, a lecturer in History at the University of New England, published by Allen & Unwin that Mary Ann actually lived 4 more decades and the quoted death at present was another half Aboriginal lady that Thunderbolt had an affair with. Baxter claims Mary Ann had 15 children in all and died as Mary Ann Burrows of Mudgee in 1905. So the story comes back to the Mudgee area and the family tree from 15 children in all should be quite extensive.

I  am  a  great  grandson  of Jane  McKINNON/nee  BUGG.b,__1866    mar  1885 McKINNON. Robert.James  I  have  done  much research  of  the  [8] BUGG  children  who`s  parents  were  Convict James.BUGG.b,__23-10-1801  in Essex ENGLAND..  mar 21-9-1848  in GLOUCESTER  NSW.  Aborigie  Charlotte. DERBY.b,__1813 @ KIRRIPIT RAWDON VALE.
Mary.Ann. BUGG   had  married three  or  maybe  four times  the  famous  Fred  WARD[aks  Cpt THUNDERBLOT]  mar  her I  believe  in 1869  at  STROUD.  When she died  was buried  at MUDGEE  Cemetery  is this correct ?..
Also  Mary.Ann BUGG  mar James  BURROWS  I  believe  but I  found not details or  children  to him..
As  a  Aboriginal Family Historian  researching  two other  Convict`s  who mar Aboriginal  women  these  were [1]  Jonathan  GOLDSPINK  mar   Margaret. REID   [2]  Thomas MAYERS  mar Mary.Ann.PERRY a  daughter  of a  white  soldier named PERRY and  a full-blood  Aborigine  Mum  of Port Stephens.
So  having completed our RIDGEWAY  family history  dating back to James b__1550  in Great Horwood Derbyshire England  his  Aboriginal  wife Sarah  REED.b,__1813  in WALCHA  they  were the parents  of  four boys and one girl,  their eldest  later  was  known  in  Port Stephens  as William [King Billy] RIDGEWAY  I  have  his  breast plate, also a photo of he and Queen Charlotte.
I  find these mixed  marriages so interesting I  hope to  research much  of those two  Convict  marriages I  found out that  the former Aussie Test Cricketer  Geoff  LAWSON  his Mum  is a  6th   Generation   of  the GOLDSPINK couple. If  MUDGE   history  has  information of Mary.Ann.  I  would like to hear from  you, Yours  Sincerely, Les  RIDGEWAY[Snr] Aboriginal  Family Historian

 

 

Looking for Ward Wiradjuri family

Dear History, I believe my family has an aboriginal ancestor of the WIRADJURI TRIBE MUDGEE and would like to confirm this. James Ward is the person who we believed to have had a relationship with an aboriginal woman we don’t have any history of him but I have his daughter Jane DOB 24/7/1826 DOD 22/8/1897 Mudgee. How do I go about confirming this. I would appreciate any assistance. Sincerely Sheriden Bird.

 

Ward family

Hi Dianne, I am very keen to find any information on a BERNARD WARD dob 1841 at Gulgong, married Margaret Carroll at Gulgong 1878, and died at Bullarora Station Coonamble (Information Trove Freeman’s Journal 14 Sept 1878). I  believe Bernard may have been aboriginal, he was the father of my Grandmother ( Catherine Mary Ward dob 31 March 1878 at Gulgong).  I have been unable to find a birth certificate which could tell me his parents name s etc.  Bernard is my “brick wall”in the family history, there has always been some unspoken mystery surrounding him and considerable intrigue re the circumstances of his death.  Is there any way I can determine if Bernard Ward was indeed aboriginal and how do I go about achieving this information.  My family all come from the Byrock, Bourke and Coonamble regions. On Bernard’s  death certificate there is no record of his parents or any useful information.  I would be grateful of any assistance you may be able to offer.... Yours respectfully.  Lesley Russell

 

Hi I have been told I am relation to Captain thunderbolt, Fred Ward, my name is Clinton ward my father is Craig ward his father is warren ward, how do I find out if I am related? Regards, Clinton ward

 

 

 

Fred WARD, Thunderbolt's lady: the Aboriginal lady bushranger Mary Ann Bugg in Cooyal, Mudgee.

http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/bushrangers/mary.php and http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=thunderbolt&id=I01114 This is a family tree list of Mary Ward from Cooyal, near Mudgee, Aboriginal bushranger married to Fred Ward, the famous bushranger 'Thunderbolt'. The site has links to her ancestors, so should be useful for descendants seeking their family history, particularly the Ward families from the Cooyal district. Also seek information from the new site connected to the new book, www.thunderboltbushranger.com.au .  But please note that there is controversy coming over Mary Ann’s death. New evidence is being published in a book by Carol Baxter, a lecturer in History at the University of New England, published by Allen & Unwin that Mary Ann actually lived 4 more decades and the quoted death at present was another half Aboriginal lady that Thunderbolt had an affair with. Baxter claims Mary Ann had 15 children in all and died as Mary Ann Burrows of Mudgee in 1905. So the story comes back to the Mudgee area and the family tree from 15 children in all should be quite extensive.

Also see Gawthorne family.

If you have information for Sheriden please contact the administrator on info@mudgeehistory.com.au

  

Ward family

Response from Kris: William Ward, half-caste aboriginal whose guardians are Anne and Richard Ward, Innkeeper of Muswellbrook, was born about 1836 and baptised 25. 9.1848 Parish of Whittington (49/1106) Also baptised on this day was Elizabeth Emma, daughter of Richard and Ann Ward.

 

 

CAMERON/HANNAH

read this page and thought it might be helpful to let you know that ancetsry.com now has the NSW census for 1891 and 1901 which lists people as aboriginal. After sooooo many years of family research into my aboriginal ancestry (from Yahoo Hill originally from Neurea and possibly the Wingawarra), I finally found some written proof in the census.

There is a J Hannah living at the coolah Bridge with 6 males and 8 females in the household all but 1 male were listed as half cast aboriginal. May be of some help... Regards, Kate

 

 

Cameron/Hannah/Magick

Hi Diane – I’m related to the Williams’ from Home Rule, Gulgong and also related to the Camerons’ and Hannahs’ of Gulgong , Coolah area.
In particular I’m trying to find my great grandfather who was an Aborigine from the Coolah area. My grandmother was born 1909 to Mary A. Hannah and this aboriginal man whom I cant locate. Are there any Elders that I can contact to clear this up? James Williams

 

I have a record stating that Mrs James Magick believed to be Bridigit Ann Magick (nee Hayward) was present at the birth of Henry Shaw in the 1860s at Cobbora. Perhaps James may be able to shed some light on this for me. Kind Regards Daniel Parsons


Recently, I have contacted Coolah hospital (where my grandmother was born in 1906). I wanted to go over their birth records to see if a father was recorded. The staff there wandered down the hall to an old bloke who was in for some procedure or other. Anyway they gave the phone to him!! His name was Peter Henderson. I guess he was 80 plus. He told me the the only “black” side came from my great, great grandmother Caroline Droy. Cant find any info on her. Peter also told me he can remember old ‘Jack’ Hannah. And Jack had a blacksmith called George Hayter.
My great grandmother, Mary A Hannah, died at Narrabri. She was 29. My grandmother was raised by her grandparents , John and Caroline Hannah.
A story at another time – to save confusion – was that my grandmother (Gladys EF Hannah) was only 3 and was treated like a slave until saved by another branch of the family. So I’m trying to find the partner/husband of Mary A Hannah.
An aunt has mentioned to me that when the children were young (my grandmother’s kids) an aboriginal man knocked on their door and asked for my grandmother. She introduced him as her cousin. His name was Norman Roy.
Also, some years back the ‘family went to Coolah – Hannah’s Bridge for a reunion. My mum said that there were a lot of ‘aboriginal’ people there.
I have attached a spreadsheet for you to look at.
On the other side of the family – they sprang from the Stuart/Magick side. Apparently, Sara Magick was part aborigine.
I think it is awful that the people were pushed into the background, when they were true pioneers!
While on the Magick/Stuart side, they older folk in my family have told me that my great, great,grandmother Sara Stuart (nee Magick) looked after Jimmy Governor at Gulgong when he was a kid!!
Please let me know if I can participate in any way with the initiative that you are putting forward. Kind Regards James

More from James:

My grandmother, Gladys EF Hannah, was born in 1906 at Coolah. An old fellow at Coolah told me the only 'black' side  came from my great, great grandmother Caroline Droy. Cant find any info on her. He also told me he can remember old ‘Jack’ Hannah. And Jack had a blacksmith called George Hayter.
My great grandmother, Mary A Hannah, died at Narrabri. She was 29. My grandmother was raised by her grandparents , John and Caroline Hannah until Mary A Hannah took over.
An aunt has mentioned to me that when she was young an aboriginal man knocked on their door and asked for my grandmother. She introduced him as her cousin. His name was Norman Roy. Also, some years back the ‘family went to Coolah – Hannah’s Bridge for a reunion. My mum said that there were a lot of ‘aboriginal’ people there. The other side of the family sprang from the Stuart/Magick side. Apparently, Sara Magick was part aborigine. The older folk in my family have told me that my great, great, grandmother Sara Stuart (nee Magick) looked after Jimmy Governor at Gulgong when he was a kid!

Births of my great grandmother and her siblings.

12327/1881

HANNAH

EMILY

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

 

18599/1881

HANNAH

BETSY

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

Married a Lewis

20812/1883

HANNAH

WILLIAM

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

Married a Farley at Gulgong

22585/1884

HANNAH

MARY A

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

This is my Great Great Grandmother

24063/1886

HANNAH

HARRIET

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

 

25367/1888

HANNAH

EDITH

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

 

24706/1887

HANNAH

THOMAS J

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

 

10101/1890

HANNAH

GEORGE WALTER

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

 

10008/1894

HANNAH

LILY E M

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

 

11941/1895

HANNAH

EARNEST H

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

 

20072/1889

HANNAH

FLORENCE GC

JOHN

CAROLINE

CASSILLIS

 

They lived in the Coolah region at a place called Hannah’s Bridge.

Help from Peter Henderson of Hannah’s Bridge.

John Hannah known as Jack.

John Hannah had a blacksmith named George Hayter

Caroline Hannah nee Droy is reported to be of Aboriginal extract also.

Nan’s cousin was an aboriginal man named Norman Roy.

 Births of Mary A Hannah’s children – who is their dad?

32542/1905

HANNAH

REGINALD J S

 

Mary A

COOLAH

 

34112/1907

HANNAH

GERTRUDE M A

 

Mary A

CASSILIS  

 

13505/1909

HANNAH

GLADYS E F

 

Mary A

COOLAH

My grandmother. Three years old when her mother died. Apparently her grandparents, John and Caroline took her in and treated as a slave until she was about 12.

 

 

 

Deaths of Mary A and siblings

 

HANNAH

EMILY

JOHN

CAROLINE

 

 

146661/1923

HANNAH

BETSY

JOHN

CAROLINE

ORANGE

 

30735/1967

HANNAH

WILLIAM

JOHN

CAROLINE

PARRAMATTA

 

11598/1912

HANNAH

MARY A

JOHN

CAROLINE

NARRABRI

HANNAH My Great Grandmother

26137/1919

HANNAH

THOMAS J

JOHN

CAROLINE

COOLAH

 

9317/1952

HANNAH

GEORGE WALTER

JOHN

CAROLINE

NEWTOWN

 

 

4 x great grandparents

I am the Grand Daughter of Lily E M Hannah and the Great Grand Daughter of Caroline Droy (Roy) and John Hannah.Also related to the Hannah's, Cameron's King's, Scanlon,s and a lot of others around that area from that time. I am seeking information of Caroline's family and her father Frederick Roy. Lily E was born in 1894 and died in 1967.

Thank you Ann

Cameron

Hi – Fabulous page! I am seeking information about the father of Christina Cameron’s baby Isabella Jane.  There is no father listed on the birth certificate. According to stories told by Isabella, late in her life, her father was aboriginal, possibly half aboriginal, of wiradjuri descent.  He worked on Christina Cameron’s landholding which was 4 miles from the Coolah Bridge school.  She owned it in her own right – a pioneering woman right there!  Isabella was my mothers grandmother, so this man is my great, great grandfather. Henry Edwin Horne was a schoolteacher at Coolah Bridge School and found rooms on Christina Cameron’s farm.   Isabella was married to Henry Edwin Horne  (Property – Oldcastle in Leadville) on 15 June 1895, so born around 1874 I think. If anybody has any information about that side of the family, I would be very interested in contacting them. Many thanks in advance, and good luck with your geaneology searches. Debby Brown

 

Charles family

My name is Daniel Parsons and I am trying to help my wife Melanie Parsons (nee Charles)with some family History research. I am particularly interested in the Charles and Allen Families that came from Dubbo and surrounds. The family members we are researching are Theresa Vera Allen also known as 'Ma' Charles or Rogers as she remarried after her first husband Clifford Clarence Charles passed away in wyana bushfires.  we know that on his WWI record Cliff was listed as having Dark Brown Hair, Blue eyes and a 'medium' complexion. We only have oral history on Theresa being that she was a midwife that worked in Gulgong, Gulargambone etc.  We can find her birth certificate but no registration of death although oral history says she died in 1977. Theresa had brothers including: Vivian Rudolph Allen; Robert A Allen; Albert Henry Allen; We understand that there was an Albert Allen in Browns Flat NSW in 1960s and are hoping to follow up on some info with Aiatsis. Cliffords siblings include: Franics Charles; Harold Charles; Susan Charles; All lived around Mogo Forest, Mogriguy, Beni, Wellington etc. Kind Regards, Daniel Parsons

William Charles and Sarah Burke m. Hartley NSW

4894/1861           CHARLES             Robert W                           WILLIAM              SARAH A             BATHURST 

10472/1862         CHARLES             SUSAN                                WILLIAM              SARAH A             MUDGEE 

5217/1866           CHARLES             SUSAN                                WILLIAM              SARAH A             MUDGEE

7977/1864           CHARLES             FRANCIS                            WILLIAM              SARAH A             DUBBO

7996/1866           CHARLES             JOSEPH                             WILLIAM              SARAH A             DUBBO 

 

3 x grandparents

 

3766/1886m       CHARLES             ROBERT                               SHAW  MARGARET S    MANLY

10472/1862         CHARLES             SUSAN                                WILLIAM              SARAH A             MUDGEE 

5217/1866           CHARLES             SUSAN                                WILLIAM              SARAH A             MUDGEE

7977/1864           CHARLES             FRANCIS                            WILLIAM              SARAH A             DUBBO

7996/1866           CHARLES             JOSEPH F                           WILLIAM              SARAH A             DUBBO 

 

Children

16200/1887b      CHARLES             SARAH A                                            ROBERT                               MARGARET S     DUBBO 

15948/1889b      CHARLES             *WILLIAM R                                        ROBERT                               MARGARET S     DUBBO 

12222/1891b      CHARLES             *HAROLD                                           ROBERT                               MARGARET S     DUBBO 

12616/1893b      CHARLES             SUSAN Grace                                   ROBERT                               MARGARET S     DUBBO 

  28171/1895b    CHARLES             ROBERT H                                         ROBERT                               MARGARET S     WELLINGTON 

4558/1896d         CHARLES             ROBERT H                                      ROBERT                                MARGARET S    WELLINGTON     

27487/1897b      CHARLES             *CLIFFORD Clarence                     ROBERT                               MARGARET S    WELLINGTON

 

Can you please advise if you are aware of any of these family members in your details and if they come from an Aboriginal background. 

Thanks, Daniel


Charles/Appleby/Shaw/O'Grady/Myler family

A researcher has found the below for me and says that the Charles are Aboriginal through Margaret Sussanah Shaw born Pleasant flat near Cobbora.  He also says that the Charles are related to the O’Grady or Grady family and he can send me a copy of the family tree.  Also the Myler children  descendants of Sarah Ann Charles and Victor Harold Myler are listed as having dark hair, Blue eyes and Dark complexion in War Records  I have attached a copy of war record for you.  Susan Grace Charles married George Vernon Appleby and a lot of the family is still around the Sutherland Shire in Sydney.

   

 Can you advise if any of the names are familiar to you from records in NSW and QLD etc.

 Kind Regards

1932/C4223

Hilton Harold

Myler

Victor Harold

Sarah Ann Charles

1941/B54569

Violet May

Myler

Victor Harold

Sarah Ann Charles

1960/B37196

Fredrick John

Myler

Victor Walter

Phyllis Evelyn Schmidt

1946/C5447

Sarah Ann

Myler

Robert Charles

Margaret Susanah Shaw

1976/B67762

Raymond Vincent

Myler

Harold Vincent Myler

Sarah Charles

1976/B67741

Frank Onslow

Myler

Victor Harold Myler

Sarah Ann Charles

1972/C1370

Sarah Anne

Myler

Maxwell Kenneth Myler

Marlene Rose Batzloff

1969/C4868

Victor Harold

Myler

William Myler


Hi found these one also and I find this an interesting link.

http://alh-research.tripod.com/Light_Horse/index.blog?topic_id=1115685

There are Appleby, Charles and Myler's Mentioned in it.

Charles

Harry

26 Mar 1946

57y

son/William & Alice; h/Jean Duncan

Charles

Jean Duncan

7 Apr 1975

86y

née English; w/Harry

I also found this record of Harry Charles a son of William and Alice - William Francis Charles appears to have married Alice Skillcorn in NSW. so it appears that all 3 moved to QLD for some reason.


Susan Grace Charles married George Vernon Appleby in 1919 in Sydney and  comes from Mogo Forest between Batemans Bay and Moruya on NSW South Coast and was born on Feb 12 1893.  Her father was Robert Charles born Jan 09 1861 in Bathurst and died on Sep 11 1938 and her mother was Margaret Susanna Shaw.  She had a sister Sarah Ann, and brothers Clifford Clarence, Harold Joseph and William Francis born Nov 10 1889 in Mogo Forest.   Sarah Ann born Sep 25 1887 and died Sep 30 1946 married Victor Harold Myler. Thanks again, Dan

Charles/Appleby/Shaw/O'Grady/Myler family

Hi, I am very interested in sharing info on the Charles/Myler family mentioned on the Let's Chat Mudgee history website by Dan. Victor Harold & Sarah Ann Myler are my maternal great grandparents & Sarah's parents, Robert Charles & Margaret Shaw, are (obviously!) my great great grandparents. I have some family photos of both sets of ancestors & would love to share info about the family. My mum always told me that Grandma Charles (Margaret Susannah) had a sister called Susan who married an Appleby so we are definitely on the same branch of the tree.  :) Regards, Robyn Kirkman

 

 

Clarke

Hi, My name is Dominique Clarke, I am trying to find information on my family that were born in the Gulgong area. My grandfathers name was James Copelin and my grandmother was Myra Isabel Kent. I have found little information on my grandmother , I know her mothers name was Minnie Kent and she married a Rhobe after my grandmother was born. I have tried to get all avenues to find out this information, but no success. Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Dominique

Coalthin/Coalther/Kirby/Lynes/Penson/Osborne

Dear Diane, Hi I am hoping that you can  help me in some way as I have become frustrated at running  into invisible walls.  For many years the word  about our family  history on my mother's side  was we had a Maori princess in our family history . I have found out some information but not much I was hoping just maybe you have come across these names  Mary's history, her mother's name was Charlotte Coalthin or Coalthon or Coalther the last 2 letters of her name have been smudged  or  they have  tried to change one of the letters at the end of   her name and botched it up it also had no date of birth or her residency .  Her father's name was written as  Kirby  no first name no place of residence  or his date of birth.   I have no records  of their deaths births or marriage . All I know is my great grandmothers name was Mary Kirby born on the banks of the Castlereagh river in 1843 cannot find a birth certificate for Mary all information comes from Mary's marriage to Thomas and Julia's birth certificate and Julia's wedding. Not sure when Mary   married someone Lynes we have no records of this all I know prior to that she worked as a servant some where . At some stage Mary becomes a widow Lynes and moves to Wilcannia  she now has 2 boys I do not know these 2 boys names or ages or how long  she was in Willcania before she met my great grandfather or wether they arrived together they are married in 1881 she now becomes Mrs Penson she marries my great-grandfather Thomas Charles Penson and lives at Turkey Creek Wilcannia where my grand mother Julia was born in 1881 and her brother Henry was born in1883. My grandmother Julia was 15 when she was married to a bullock driver he was 29yrs old they were married at a sheep station called The Albemarle  Victoria lake Menindee where Julia was a domestic .My great grand mother attended the wedding she was also working at Albermarle  and on my grand mothers wedding certificate Mary was now Mary Osborne . Thomas Penson was now deceased he died sometime between 1881-1896. I have no birth or death certificates for Thomas, Mary her mother Charlotte her father Kirby. Or any records of a Mr Lynes or a Mr Osborne or Julia's brother Henry or step brothers. I hope you can help me in some way as my great and great great grand parents
   on my mothers side is some what of a mystery. I truly believe that Mary or Kirby or Charlotte had indigenous  heritage   or  either or both of their families had indigenous ties. It would be great to unravel this mystery  and discover my roots. Thank you for your help and time in regards to my query .Kerry    
                                                 

Cook/Singleton Family

My name is Steven Prior. Marry Anne Cook is my great great great grandmother she lived in mudgee from around the 1820‘s alfred ernest singleton is my great great grandfather i am trying to find out where our aboriginal blood came from in our family history. I find from Eileen Steadson her mother was Emma Darling singleton wife to alfred ernest singleton her mother was mary anne cook wife to john henry cook i believe my aboriginal heritage comes from the begining of the mudgee area if you no anyone who could help me with this i would be very greatfull
Yours sincerly
Steve prior

COWARD FAMILY

Hi Diane, My name is Melissa Evans, and I have been trying to research my nan's aboriginal heritage for over 10 years now. Her name is Janice Coward b: 7/11/1938 supposedly in merriwa  d: 20/05/2005 in Grafton nsw. Parents on the birth certificate say mother : Rita Mary Sargent French b:11/09/1912   d: 09/01/1976  father Harold Clyde Coward b: 21/09/1910  d: 11/10/1989.  I have been told that Rita was not my nan's mother, that Harold had a  child with an aboriginal lady and brought her home in a saddle bag after she was born to be raised by them.  My nan was subject to cruelty from Rita and her siblings because of this incuding racial remarks about the colour of her skin. I know that you are in the mudgee area but I was hoping that you may know someone who knows anything about my nan's mum. The areas I have been looking at are quirindi, tambar springs, walhallow, caroona, williewarina station, merrigular station, murrurundi, comilaroy station and basically anywhere in between. I have ony been given very limited information. No one wants to talk as 'It will open a can of worms'. My pop Harold was a drover who covered alot of territory and I was told that many aboriginals at the time took the last name of the station or property where they worked. Other names of interest in the family tree are French, Dowd, Perry, Callaghan, Dixon, Pyne, Wicks and of course Coward. I have researched these names as much as I can to no avail. There is no aboriginality that I can find. I am proud Kamilaroi. I hope that you can help me. Please email me if you need more information.  Thanking You Regards  Melissa Evans

 

DOOLEY/BASSETT/BYRNE/BURNS

Hello, I am trying to trace a Mary Dooley. She had nine children with Samuel Bassett between 1845 and 1860. There is no record of a marriage and no death certificate.
 A number of years ago I was told that her father was called Frank and was an Aborigines that worked at Guntawang. A police gazette also said that her son George Bassett was dark. A number of the Bassett children married into the Byrne/ Burns family. I have searched for Mary in all the Irish/English records without success. Do you have any records off a Frank Dooley/ Doolan or any other Aborginal Dooleys in the Gulgong/ Mudee area? Can you suggest where I could look. Any help would be appreciated. Yours sincerely Caimein Bowyer

Dubbo/Cobar Aboriginal families

Hi I just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading your site. I am originally from Cobar NSW. My mothers’ family Kilby/Callens are from Dubbo. My great grandmother is Matilda (Tilly) Callen. I am excited that with the help of facebook (bless it) I have discovered a long lost family of my mums side. Some still in Dubbo and some in Cobar. I am wondering if you have any connections in this area, as a starting point, to find out more information. I would be very grateful as I know my mother’s side is a large family but we have all become estranged and it would be so great to reconnect. Thanks so much for your time. Sharon Gray, Aboriginal Outreach Worker

Farrell/Yavion

I'm seeking any further information about my great great grandmother Mary Ann Farrell who lived in the Mudgee / Windeyer area as she is a big missing piece of my background.
The few things I do know about her. She was born around 1845 and was probably part a local clan within the Wiradjuri nation, I haven't found a birth or death certificate for her that I can confirm or a census document for further info. On her first daughter (my great grandmother) Elizabeth Ann Farrell's birth certificate she gave her place of birth as the mother as "Cloudy Bay" (Kaludabah). She had 3 children with Thomas Yavion a Chinese miner who's Chinese name was Yav Yen or similar and they lived at Windeyer.
The 3 children were Elizabeth Ann Farrell who married Thomas Meroo Chick Willams , Mary Ann Farrell jnr who married Walter J Noonan and Thomas Yavion jnr who married Clara Grace Williams (Thomas Meroo Chick Williams' sister).  Both her daughter's were married under the maiden names of Yavion though on their birth certificates they are registered as "Farrell". Thomas Yavion jnr's (Frank Yavion's father) birth certificate has his surname as "Yavven" with a double "v".  I hope someone can help especially any info about where she died and where she is buried as I can't find her. Greig Williams.

Editor's Note: Greig has been given a lot of information, some of which is printed below.

Thomas Yavion’s original grave (Thomas married Maryanne Farrell. He died 1913) is in the C section of Mudgee cemetery.  The Yavion family recently erected a monument there for him. There is a family story that Mary Anne Farrell was the daughter of an Aboriginal mother who worked for the Rouse family at Guntawang. The story goes that Rouse fathered Maryanne Farrell. There is also a photo in the Windeyer pub of Mack Macalpine Thomas Yavion taken down the mine at Eagle Hawk Mountain. The late Frank Yavion is also buried at Windeyer. He died 15th January. Frank’s brother was Clyde (Dick’s father) and his sisters were Phyllis and Laurel. Laurel is still alive. The Yavion’s family at Windeyer also married into the Williams family, and there are many descendants at Windeyer. Many of them around Long Creek. Nellie Forrester also lived there and married into the Williams family.

Thanks for a bit more info on Mary Ann Farrell ...it all helps but I always had a feeling that I wasn't going to be able to go back further in my family history on my Pop's side than Mary Ann and Thomas once I confirmed the Aboriginal /Chinese ancestry ,I'll give Dick a call. I've got a copy of the Eaglehawk mine pic in which Frank Yavion identified his and my Pop's grandfather Thomas Yavion and I emailed some pics and documents to the Mudgee Museum earlier this year so you could put them in the Williams folder in case someone else was looking. It's interesting you mentioned the name Forrester as the last time I was in Mudgee the museum gave me some copies of some death certs and there was one for an Agnes Forester known as Williams certified by Clara Grace Yavion (Frank's mum-Dick's Grandmother-my Pop's Aunty) and it said Agnes was unmarried so I couldn't work out (and still can't) how Clara was her sister in law. I'd only just got back from Mudgee/ Windeyer earlier this year when my Uncle called to tell me Frank had passed away, he's buried in the same area at Windeyer cemetery as my family and just near his father Thomas jnr and I paid my respects a few months ago...I'm working my way through the Windeyer General cemetery list and there's about 30 family connections there. ...I would like to thank everyone for their help with my family search over the past 6 months,the info I got from the museum has been fantastic...Cheers and thanks again. Greig Williams

 

Hi Diane, Just an update on my search for my indigenous great great grandmother Mary Ann Farrell.
I've been in contact with all of Aboriginal departments within NSW and locally in Mudgee that I could think of and have searched as many other places as I could but unfortunately I couldn't find much more information then what I had sent to you earlier in 2012.
I did find out through Thomas Yavion Snr death certificate that there was another daughter and  I found she was Rose Farrell born in 1877 to Thomas and Mary Ann and I'm guessing Rose died whilst a child as I can't find any other document for Rose except for her birth certificate registered by Mary Ann again under the surname of Farrell.
The name Rose was used as the middle name for Thelma Rose Pye nee Williams who was Mary Ann's grandchild and my great aunt / Dick Yavion's grandmother.
I've spoken to Dick and Alice Yavion a few times over the past 6 months and they had done a lot of searching for Mary Ann Farrell over the years and unfortunately there's nothing more known.
Dick Yavion said he had heard stories of Thomas Yavion driving around Windeyer in a sulky with the three children but no mention of Mary Ann Farrell being with them so she may have passed away or had left the area by the late 1800s.
Sadly I have noticed that on some of the family documents I've found that she was already starting to be forgotten or not fully acknowledged or given the wrong name as soon as the next generation so I can understand why there's so little information to be found.
I take some heart knowing that according to the Aboriginal departments I've contacted there's not much more I can do and that my adult children probably know more about her than my grandfather did and this is because of wonderful websites like this one so thank you.
To all of Mary Ann Farrell's descendants ..the Yavion, Williams, Noonan, Cruz families may she never be forgotten.
Regards , Greig Williams

 

My name is Ella Gaffney (nee Cruz) and I was wondering if you could help me find any information on my Aboriginal ancestors as I can’t find anything; Aboriginal Great-Great- Grandmother:  Mary Ann Farrell born 1847?? Father Farrell?  Mother Meroo? Mary Ann Married Thomas Yavion (Yavven?) he was born in China.  They had a daughter called Mary Ann born: 1871? Died 8 November 1936 she married Walter J Noonan in 1902?  They had a daughter called Ella Mary Noonan  born 1903 died 11 June 1945 she married Juan Cruz (snr) 1925, they had a son Juan born 17 October 1931 Died 29 June 1963 he married Grace Cole March 1951- then came me Ella Mary Cruz now married to Len Gaffney.  Of cause mum & dad had other children. Not sure of any other children to the above mention; Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards Ella Gaffney

Editor's note: Ella has been sent some information and also advised to look up the Mudgee local white pages phone book because both the Gaffney and Yavion families still live in the area.

    

Mary Anne Yavion                                      Walter Joseph Noonan

Yavion/Noonan family

Hi Ella, My name is Catherine White and I'm also trying to trace the Yavion and Noonan line, my Great Grandmother was Mary Ann Yavion before marrying Walter Joseph Noonan then their daughter Ella Mary married Juan Cruz and they had six children  ; (1) Marie (now deceased), (2) Alberta (my mother now deceased), (3) Phyllis (living in Mudgee), (4) Juan (now deceased), (5) Carmen and (6) Juanita (living in Macquarie Park) My mother Albert June Cruz married Raymond Eisenhuth (German descent) and went on to have six children, I'm number four. I came across two marriage certificates for Elizabeth Annie Yavion (occupation: domestic servant) who married Thomas Meroo Chick Williams (occupation: Alluvial gold miner) on 24th June 1900. Thomas Williams father George was also a miner and his mothers name was Fanny Johnston, at the time of Elizabeth's marriage Thomas Yavion was a Hawker of Fruit and currently I'm still looking for information on Mary Anne Farrell. Also if anyone can help me locate Walter Noonan's grave as his death reads ABT 1879, what I'm looking for is his full date of death. He was born in Cork Ireland in 1820 married Mary Anne McCarthy before coming to Australia on the ship 'William Metcalfe" the information I have is that had a residence in Nov 1852 Luson? (could be Lawson) before he settled in Gilgandra NSW. Any information would be much appreciated, also I have attached 2 copies of Elizabeth Yavions marriage certificates, a copy of a charcoal portrait of Mary Anne Yavion (Thomas Yavion (snr's) daughter and her husband Walter Joseph Noonan for your research. Regards, Catherine White

 

 

 

Firth from Cassilis

I am trying to find information on my Great Great Grandmother Frances Firth and her 2 daughters Agnes May Firth and Mary  Ann Firth. Frances died 22 August 1864 in Mudgee and , Agnes (born 1862) and Mary Ann (born 1863) were both born in Cassilis. After Frances died the 2 girls were either adopted or fostered by Walter Sherry and his wife Amy..  Agnes married my Great Great Grandfather William James Baker and Mary Ann married John Long. Walter was at one time the mayor of Mudgee and also owned some businesses in the town. I have had some reports that the girls father was an aboriginal boundary rider but have not been able to find out his name.  Frances was born in Ireland and it is unclear how she met the Sherry’s or if she knew them before living in Mudgee. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Lyn

Editor's Note: See connection with the Perram family below.

Hi Judith, Sorry it has taken me a while to respond I haven’t been onto the Mudgee website in much too long. Any information you may be able to pass on will help in possibly filling in the gaps regarding the Firth side in my tree. I know that my Great Grandfather William James Baker used to work for Cobb and Co in the Mudgee area which is how he met his wife Agnes. Thank you for your response and I look forward to hearing from you. Lyn

I am searching for details of my Great Grandmother, Frances Firth, who lived in the Cassilis district and died in Mudgee on 22 Aug 1864. Frances gave birth to 2 children in Cassilis - Agnes May Firth (1862) and Mary Ann Firth (1863). Family verbal history indicates that Frances’ partner may have been a Wiradjuri man. My cousin, Lyn Moloney, has previously posted details regarding our search on your Mudgee District Local History website. I note that you have available Births, Deaths and Marriages Aboriginal records. Could I obtain a copy of these records please? Thanks, David Baker

 

From Shane Hailes on FIRTH FAMILY

My name is shane, we have traced our bloodline back to Frances firth and have found information about john Taylor (white fellow) from tumut wiradjuri tribe he is also known to be from Wagga Wagga because of his hard work as a stockman and his cricket skills. In 1862 the year Agnes may firth was born there was an article in the Sydney morning herald 19 dec 1862, stating a known relationship between an indigenous man and a non indigenous woman from the stockman station in Wagga. john Taylor and Frances j firth were in a relationship. The documentation my mother has for Agnes May firth identifies her as aboriginal and Frances j firth as the mother, she also has documentation of john Taylor and Frances firth relationship, what we don't have is direct links from john to Agnes, his daughter. The second article states that in 1867 the argus (Melbourne) news paper 4th January an aboriginal stockman and a non indigenous lady from the same station got married in Wagga. This article very well may contain false information given the distance from the source and I think Frances j firth died in 1864, I'm yet to confirm that, I don't have the info in front of me for that. Mum is going to give me all the info soon so I am happy to assist as I have the same questions. Any information you can provide me as well to help would be great. Thankyou. If this bloodline has already been identified and john Taylor is known to be father of Agnes May firth could I please be past the information as we are stuck at finding any other proof he was the actual father of Agnes May firth. We are in contact with the baker decendants and they talk of john Taylor as the father, Frances and how the two girls were adopted by the mayor of Wagga a friend of Frances's, Walter sherry. Hope this helps and any help you's can provide me is much appreciated.=From Shane Hailes

 

 

Freeman/Morris family

My name is Lisa Smith and I am in the process of obtaining information regarding my ancestors; I have been advised that my aboriginal ancestors are from my mother and fathers side. Details are as follows; Mothers Side GGG Grandfather - William Henry Morris M Marcella/Marsetta Fines in Carcoar in 1882, Obtained Marriage certificate however no details on their parents. GG Grandfather - James Fines Morris B 1893 in Bathurst and married Ruby Mary Green in 1915 in Bathurst G Grandfather - Ronald James Morris B 1916 in Bathurst        Fathers Side I have been told that my GGGG Grandather William (Billy Freeman was aboriginal)  GGG Grandfather - George (Geo Freeman) B 1835 Richmond. Married Margaret Dunn in 1855 - Resided in Nyngan. GG Grandfather - Henry Freeman B 1864 in Mudgee and Died 1950 in Nyngan. He Married Harriett Pack  G Grandmother - Evelyn Freeman B 1901 Nyngan D 1981 Nyngan  Can you please see what information you have. Anything would be fantastic.

Freeman/Luck family

Hi, My grandfather Bill Luck was a head stock man who apparently was from the Coolah area. The story is that he ran away with a girl that he should not have and unfortunately she drowned in a creek. I have no information at all regarding my grandfather other than the fact that he married my grandmother (white lady) and then joined the State Electricity Commission until he retired. While he was alive he never alluded to his Aboriginal Heritage and we never got to know his "other family". I am now trying to find his family who I believe originate in the Coolah area. I know it is a long shot but are you able to point me in the right direction in finding my grandfathers family? Thank you so much for any help or advice you can provide me. Mark Freeman


FREEMAN, ADAMS, JONES FAMILY

Hay there, Im doing the family for my mother and law who has been told that she has aboriginal in her family, so far I have track her family back to a Louisa Adams born 1805 and foster to a Thomas and Elizabeth Jones of Pitt Town. Im looking for records that she was of aboriginal decent and she was from. If I could get a copy of the aboriginal Birth Deaths and Marriages would be of great help. Also need this information for my side of the family as we have been told there is aboriginal in there but not sure where. Thanks for your time. Mick Freeman

 

 

GARDINER/MAGICK/HAYWARD/SARGENT

TRYING TO FIND OR TRACE MY FAMILY  MAGICK  E GARDINER NEE MAGICK, MY GRAET GRAND MOTHER, HER MOTHER WAS BRIDGET A HAYWARD AND HER MOTHER WAS BIDDY SARGENT. HOPE YOU CAN HELP ME JANELLE LOUISE CLARK NEE GARDINER .

Also see Hannah above.

 

GAWTHORNE FAMILY

Firstly, thank you for providing this service. I am researching Benjamin Gawthorne, birth about 1818, UK, transported to Australia as convict, after pardon given land grant at Mudgee, built Gawthorne Cottage, death 14/11/1900.   There is an indigenous link somewhere perhaps with his wife Jane Ward’s ( birth 24/7/1826, richmond,)   mother she was  Elizabeth Somerville, marriage 19/5/1812 St Phillips Church, Sydney,  to James Ward birth about 1784, UK, transported to Australia as convict. So what I am looking for is records for Elizabeth Somerville to see if she perhaps is the indigenous link. Any assistance greatly appreciated.  Thanking you.

Yvonne

 

 

Information on Mawbey family and Jimmy Governor

Thank you so much Diana for your help.
My family history which I began early last year is in the form of a blog, entitled MAWBEY FAMILY AUSTRALIA.
You can view it at http://mawbeyfamilyaustralia.blogspot.com
I have taken on the challenge of tracking down all the MAWBEYS, and MAWBYS too, in the earliest days of white Australian settlement...
I also have another blog which might be relevant to visitors to your website called JIMMY GOVERNOR FORENSIC.
I am using that to try and look at what happened with the benefit of modern psychology.
The link is
http://jimmygovernorforensic.blogspot.com
Best wishes. Pamela Mawbey

My great, great grandmother used to look after jimmy governor at gulgong when he was a kid. Her name was Sarah Stuart (nee Magick).
Also, if you visit the Gulgong museum, you can see a “stool”, made by jimmy governor. James.

JIMMY GOVERNOR FAMILY HISTORY: http://jimmygovernorforensic.blogspot.com/p/corrections.html

JIMMY GOVERNOR TIMELINE
http://jimmygovernorforensic.blogspot.com/p
/governor-family-timeline.html


NSW MAP as occupied by native tribes:
http://jimmygovernorforensic.blogspot.com/p
/governor-family-timeline.html
Click: Map Fraser NSW Native Tribes 1882

NSW MAP depicting boundaries of Aboriginal tribes:
http://jimmygovernorforensic.blogspot.com/p
/governor-family-timeline.html

Click:Tindale Map

 Hardy

Hi my name is Warren Hardy.I was wondering if you would know of anyone in the mudgee area that does family history. Ive been told that im aboriginal and trying to find out some information about this.If you could help me that would be great.thankyou for your time.

 

Sarah Emily Holland

My name is Matt Alley. I live in Sydney. Recently some old family photos along with some birth certificates have surfaced linking my family tree back to the Gulgong area in the 1880's. There is a bit of a gap in the picture. I'll do my utmost to be brief. I have a birth certificate for a Sarah Emily Holland born Sept 18 1880. She was not present at registry on Nov 11 the same year. The birth certificate identifies Henry James Holland as the father; a 24 year old saddler/coachman from London. The birth certificate identifies Mary Jane Hickson as the mother; 24 years of age from Mudgee. However Mary Jane Hickson was his sister in law, married to a John McBeth. Henry James Holland was at the time married to Sarah Jane Hickson. Sounding like an episode of Bold and Beautiful? Well here's the wow moment for me... I have several photos of Sarah Emily Holland. Now... I'm not an expert when it comes to guessing people's ethnic background but Sarah Emily looks part Indigenous. I recently showed the photos to some ladies who are on staff in the Indigenous Studies Unit at the university I attend who themselves have an indigenous bloodline. They all concurred with my elated suspicion. From here... I do not know how to proceed. One of the ladies suggested I visit Gulgong and ask around. So by contacting you I am starting the process. I understand that i may be barking up the wrong tree. If so, please let me know. I will forward you a photo of my mysterious great, great grandmother . Kind Regards, Matt Alley

 

 

Isaac Kemp and Mary

 Hello, This is just a tiny piece of information regarding my descendants. Isaac kemp convict, had a liason of some duration with an aboriginal woman, Mary. They had a child named William, born between 1926 and 1830 at Cooyal. The aboriginality of William is recorded in two places. His birth records
"Mary, a native"
Later when his father Isaac died , William attempted to gain his estate but failed. He was referred to as "the illegitimate aboriginal son of Isaac" I cannot tell what became of Mary, but Isaac certainly remarried in the 1830s, and kept William with him.Perhaps she died, or rejoined her people, regards, Louise Kemp


My Grandmother Enid May Kemp was born in Coonamble.  Her father was Herbert Ernest Kemp and her Grandfather was William Isaac Kemp.  I read on this site that William was the result of a liaison between convict Isaac Kemp and Mary and Aboriginal lady.  I have searched and searched trying to find reference to Mary or to find evidence of her Aboriginality but can't seem to find it.  I could not locate William's BDM birth certificate. I thought I would email in the hope that Louise Kemp - who originally posted this info on your site, would have any additional evidence or help.  I believe we are related and I would like to make contact.  I would also like to honour my Grandmother and celebrate her heritage.  Thank you Nicole Duffy

Editor: Nicole was put in touch with Louise.

Hi Diane - greatly appreciate your help! Louise has been in touch and was fantastic! Means a lot! Nicole

JONES, ADAMS, FREEMAN FAMILY - SEE FREEMAN

Jim and Peggy Lambert

Miners' Advocate and Northumberland Recorder (Newcastle, NSW: 1873 - 1876), Saturday 30 October 1875, page 7

http://trove.nla.gov.au/static/ndp/tmpImageFiles/article142010856-4-1399178430351/article142010856-4-001.jpg

National Library of Australia

Contributed by Colleen O'Sullivan, Kandos. Thank you Colleen.

Another bit about Lamberts also from Trove

26/8/1885 M U D G E E . (Independent.) Queen Peggy Deceased. — Old Queen Peggy, one of the oldest blacks, and the last of the Rylestone tribe, died at her camp on the Cudgegong River on Monday morning last. The poor old creature had been ill for a considerable time, and during her illness great kindness was shown her by a few residents of the town. Her age was not known positively, but it was considered to be very great. The deceased was the wife of the late King Jimmy Lambert, who was always favourably known during his residence in this district for many years

Contributed by Lynne Robinson, Mudgee. Thank you Lynne.

 

 

Lambert:

 

I have been fascinated by your pieces on Jimmy and Peggy Lambert, the Bathurst Wars and Dabee tribe. I married into the Rogers family (I am from NZ) and my kids and nieces and nephews are very interested in this. You have some excellent sources of information.  

There were unsubstantiated rumours in the family of indigenous blood but nothing admitted to. So I have discovered the family is descended through Peggy Lambert's daughter Jane Lambert m. James Rogers and then through their daughter Lexina.I can find no mention of who the father of her children might be. Certainly not recorded in the NSW BMD. Ancestory.com has it as James Watts. This may or may not be so. Do you know where that information might be?  Can I post and ask? Thank you in anticipation.

Sue Fallon

Editor - Mickel Cowie has answered Sue personally. He is preparing a detailed history and family tree for Jim and Peg Lambert, which will be posted on this site shortly.

 

Peggy Lambert aka Queen Peggy (c1820-1885) had two daughters to a white man who my mother Madge Cowie nee Green, wrote was named Mr Rose. The first daughter was named after him ie Rose. The second daughter Jane married a James Rogers and had a son and three children. Later when Peggy and Jimmy Lamberts partnered they had a daughter Ilene who regrettably died before she had any children. Seemingly Mr Rose left Peggy and their two daughters Rose and Jane were raised by Jimmy Lambert. He was kind and affectionate stepfather and they recorded Jimmy Lambert as "father" on their death certificates. 

 

Peg and Jim Lambert descendants 

I am trying to trace my husbands aboriginal family history and was very excited to find information on Peg and Jim Lambert.  They are my husband's Great Great Great Grandparents.   I would like to make contact with the people on your site who would have more information on them. Wayne and Sue Riley

For more information on Peg and Jim Lambert, see down this page more and for more again, click here

 

Jim and Peg Lambert descendants

I am a descendant of Jimmy & Peggy Lambert born in around 1802 jimmy died 1882. Their children Rose, Jane,& Eileen Rose (b. abt 1848 d.13/02/1924) married John Green  Was a servant to a family named Morrisons (Scotish-from the Isle of Sky) at Rylstone NSW. Alleged to have had one (1)son (1) daughter to the son Morrisons. The son possibly named George (Neddy and Mrs Murphy) Rose’s Children George, John, Mary, Janet, Jane, Sarah Anne Green (b.abt 1880) James, Thomas, Frank, & Charles. Sarah (d.28/07/1956) married John Sigard Hanson (md.Abt.13/02/1902 in Mudgee) then married Edward Dennison (Aft.1945 in Dubbo) Sarah’s children Violet, Muriel, Thomas, John & Olga Patrovia Hanson (b.29/09/1916) Olga (d.30/03/1982) married James Cook 24/12/1933. Olga’s children Ronald, Robert, Donald, Barbara Ann Blanche Cook, Norma, Lola, Denzel, & Reginald. Barbara (d.27/06/1995) married Richard Cerwyn Roberts then lived with Mark Arthur Pritchard then David Edward Faucett. Barbara’s children (with Richard) Glenys, David, Ronald, Donald, Tracy, (with Mark) Norma Ann, Steven, Lola, Peter, (with David) & Kylie. Jim

 

Peggy and Jimmy Lambert descendants

I am sending an email in response to this web page I found when looking through the Greens Family tree. Reading about Peggy Lambert and Jimmy Lambert who are my Great, Great Grandparents on my father side.It was exciting to read this family history that you have posted in your Mudgee History web site. My father Edward born in 1931 and currently residing in the suburb of Ashbury Sydney. He will be excited to find out more about his history as both his parents died of TB when he was very young his father died in 1937 and his mother died in 1938 in Kandos. My father became an orphan and then was looked by some families in Lithgow and later bought him to Newton, Sydney to live and grow up. My Father is Edward Leon Green of Kandos son of Gerard James Green and wife Daisy Willermina Smith. Gerad James Green was son of George William Green and wife Frances Adeline Halloran. George William Green was son of John Green and wife Rose Lambert. Rose Lambert was daughter of Jimmy Lambert and Wife Peggy Lambert. We would appreciate any other history that you could enlighten us with on our family tree. Thank you, Greg Green.

Michael CowieMickel answers Greg Green

As you know everyone has a different slant on history and it is best to get as close to the original material as possible. Mum (Madge Green 1901-1972) was your grand father’s sister and they were very close, she spelt his name Gerred. When his mother Francis registered his birth she spelt it Gered and I notice you spell it Gerad... Francis also reduced his father’s age by ten years. Probably because George was almost twenty-five years older than her. In fact your G Grandfather George Green (Aka Morisson Lambert) was born 11/9/1854 and died at Lithgow 21/6/1942.  Rose Green was not the daughter of Jimmy Lambert but the daughter of Peggy and a white teamster named Mr. Rose. And obviously the source of her Christian name. Jimmy and Peggy only had one child, a daughter Eileen, who died as a child.  

Regarding the descendants of Queen Peggy Lambert this was collected by Len Brown and summarized in History Magazine published by the Royal Australian Historical Society in the September 2001 number 69 edition. This is available for a tiny fee plus postage.  Ph. 02 92478001. Email history@rahs.org.au  Len brown did a fine job of researching this, however did not discover that Peggy’s two daughters were fathered by a white man surname Rose who disappeared from the scene soon after the birth of Jane. When Peggy partnered Jimmy Lambert he reared her girls and quite understandably on Jane’s dearth certificate Jimmy Lambert is named as her father.

 

G’day Sue, I have mailed a CD today containing two folders. The first has documents and information on Mary Ann and Lily May Green etc. The second folder has Len Brown’s research,”History in Black and White” that was published in History Magazine. Some of the dates are wrong and some family members are duplicated because they were known by other names. But overall a valuable piece of research. I’m guessing that Wayne’s Dabee tribe line of descent was via Peggy Lambert c1820-1885; /Peggy’s daughter Rose 1840-1924; / Roses daughter Mary Ann / Mary Ann’s daughter Lily May who married Albert Riley etc. Is this correct? As you probably know the aboriginal Riley’s come from the Burragorang Valley Gundungurra Tribe. The Riley family story is recorded in a very informative book ‘Gungarlook” written by Ivy Riley and Jim Smith (ISBN 0959481656). It is available for about $25 from Jim Smith 65 Fletcher Street. WENTWORTH FALLS NSW 2782. I should be able to answer any specific questions you have about the Dabee or Green line. I am grandson of Mary Ann’s full brother George Green 1854-1942. Their biological father was James Morrison. Initially they used their mother’s maiden name of Lambert but later when Rose Lambert & John Green married and parented another three girls and five boys they used Green. Because of this family connection I would appreciate a copy of any additional records or information you find during your research.  Kindest regards Mickel

 

 

Hi my name is Karen and my grandmother was Mary Anne Reilly and i am sure her mother was Liliy May Green born 1889-1962 and her mother was Mary ann Green 1871-1919 her mother was Rose Lambert 1884-1924 and her mother i think was Peggy Lambert 1802-1884 just wanted to know if anyone knows this for sure. My grandmother married Harold Joseph plows . she was born 1913-1976.If anyone has anymore info please contact me as i would like to know if PEGGY Lambert is my great great great great grandmother. Thankyou for your time. KAREN JONES. 

Rose (c1840-1924) your GGG Grandmother had two children to a James Morrison my Grandfather George Green (aka Lambert) and a daughter Mary Ann, neither of these births is registered. Later Rose married John Green and had another three daughters and five sons. The girls were named, Annie, Jane, & Janet & the boys John, James, Thomas, Frank & Charles. Seemingly Lily May had three marriages, one husband, Alfred Earnest Riley is descended from the aboriginal Riley family from the Burragorang Valley. I have documentation such as marriage death and birth certificates confirming you are a descendent of Peggy Lambert but the file is two large to email but if you send me your mailing address I will download it to a disk for you. Kindest regards, Mickel 

Ps  Karen are you  related to Wayne Plows?

Lambert

I am writing on behalf of my husband’s cousin who is a descendant of Jane Lambert, who married James Rogers. Michael Cowie may be able to tell us a bit more about this Mr Rose??  Do I take it that Mr Rose and Peggy were never married. Or was she Margaret Kirkness? or did Jane make that up along the way as Jimmy was recorded on her death certificate as James Lambert or was this just a typical death certificate guess. Is there anyone who may have known siblings for Jimmy and Peggy.  Is there no one that knew names of Peggy and Jimmy’s parents. Does this line just stop/end with them? Thank you for your time on this, hope it is not an inconvenience to contact Michael Cowie. Anything you can help us with would be greatly appreciated.

Pauline

Pauline's email has been forwarded to Mickel Cowie, but someone else might have more information with the clues presented - editor

 

 

For more on Wiradjuri History by Mickel Cowie, click here.

For more information on Peg and Jim Lambert, click here

If you have more information for Greg, please email the administrator at info@mudgeehistory.com.au and I will pass it on to him.

For more information on Peg and Jim Lambert, click here

 

Lawler/Smith/Buffet/Edmonstone/Gibson

Hi my name is Alan lawler  i live in yarrawonga / mudgee , i have been attempting to find out my aborigional heritage to no avail and would greatly appreciate your help. My great grandmother was aboriginal, her maiden name was charlotte smith, born 3/11/1989 - 1974 born in Forbes nsw. She married Sydney buffet born at1889 - 1966 . Charlottes father was richard smith born in1854 - 1924 her mother was Mary Jane edmonstone  born in 1865 - 1928  she was born at spring creek near sofala, they had 12 children. Mary Jane's mother's name was Margaret Gibson's born 1843 - 1879 born at cherry tree hill ryalstone  and died at sofala. Have no more info on Richard smith other than name, dob and death date. I know that either Richard smith or Mary Jane Edmonton have to be of aboriginal status as charlotte was. Please if you can be of any assistance to identify as to who was. I have searched this and other sites to no avail and am none the wiser.. thanks for your assistance and time, hope to hear back with some news... regards   Alan

Kerry Love descendants 

Lynne Robinson gives some more information to Kerry:

Suggest Kerry obtain gg grandmothers d/cert Wilhelmine Moore who died 2/11/1939 buried Rylstone cemetery with her husband Edward Samuel Moore. This I think may lead to Alexander Dingwell & Mary Ann Tidswell of Coonabarabran area.  Her grandmothers name is Ilma not Alma and she died in Hawkesbury hospital on 11/5/2004, being born in Mudgee c1915.

 

 

Bill Luck and Freeman family

Hi, My grandfather Bill Luck was a head stock man who apparently was from the Coolah area. The story is that he ran away with a girl that he should not have and unfortunately she drowned in a creek. I have no information at all regarding my grandfather other than the fact that he married my grandmother (white lady) and then joined the State Electricity Commission until he retired. While he was alive he never alluded to his Aboriginal Heritage and we never got to know his "other family". I am now trying to find his family who I believe originate in the Coolah area. I know it is a long shot but are you able to point me in the right direction in finding my grandfathers family? Thank you so much for any help or advice you can provide me. Mark Freeman

 

Oliver family

Hi my name is Tracy Oliver.im trying to find out what aboriginal tribe i decend from.can you plz help.

 

 

Jimmy McDonald

Hi, My name is Jule and I am the great granddaughter of Jimmy McDonald. He was a tracker for the police and I am trying to find information on him

I know he married Harriot Cooper. I do remember her but I would like to know where is is buried. Thank you  I really enjoyed reading your site too.  Jules.

I also think he had a police funeral - Jule.

Yes Jule. His family have also seen a photo of him in a NSW Police publication. they are finding out more information - editor.

Mickel Cowie answers: I don't know anything about Tracker but have noticed that his name has been mentioned in a judgement re Warrabinga-Waradjurie that is accessable via Google using that as the search . Jules could read the judgement and contact the people  who have made the claim. Mickel

 

Photo of the first Wiradjuri black tracker with NSW Police in Mudgee, James 'Tracker' McDonald. This photo was supplied by and is published with permission of the descendants of Jim McDonald, Greg Ward and his family.

 

Jimmy McDonald

My name is Edwin McKenzie and I am the grandson of Jimmy "Tracker" McDonald and Harriet Cooper.  I'm 65 now, living in Cairns and moving to Brisbane at the end of June -  I would love to find out as much as I can about my family and descendents before I die.  i would appreciate any information or leads you can give me. Edwin McKenzie

James McDonald

Hello my name is Christine and I am the great grand daughter of James Mc Donald. For anybody out there who is interested in having information on James I am more than happy to provide it.It is your heritage and Im sure you will be surprised by the story I have to tell. You are welcome to contact me and we can arrange to meet. I am more than happy to share information that I have and I have stories to tell about my great grandfather, my grandmother and other members of our rather large family. There is however something all of you should know before doing so and that is that I have applied for a ban on native title claim in the name of James "tracker" Gillies Mcdonald. Through the Native Title Claims Tribunal. This will cover any new or future applications. The reason I have done this is because James Mcdonald has a still living child and I believe that it disrespectful that that child has not been acknowledged. They are wonderful, soft, gentle, funny and kind. A credit to his parents and I feel honoured that I know him. Grand children of James Mcdonald still live in the mid western regional council area. They are all elderly and do not deserve to be harrassed, they grew up in a different time and place . None of these people have ever asked for a thing ,all of them have lead good productive lives and they deserve also to be respected. So if you still want information on James Gilles Mcdonald for the right reasons please feel free to contact me.
Christine.

Editor's Note: I will forward any emails on to Christine

Jimmy McDonald is also my Great Grand Father, my Grandmother (His daughter) Alice Valerie Honeysett (nee McDonald).  Jimmy is buried in Mudgee Cemetery in the Salvation Army section.  There is still family in the area.  The direct Children of Jimmy & Harriet McDonald are: Jimmy, Edie, Doobie, Davey, Jeanie, Donnie, Gertie, Valerie, Dawn, Malcolm McDonald 80 still living in Toronto. I have a photo of them all together which I would be happy to share if you wish.  Who are your parents, we must be cousins? Regards, Marina Honeysett

Answering Jules re Jimmy McDonald – he is buried in the Salvation Army section of Mudgee cemetery Row B Plot 50. (unmarked still I think) He lived at 13 Perry St where the RTA now stands and was the last tracker at Wollar between about 1906 to 1919 living there in the trackers hut, then at Rylstone. his obituary.  - Anonymous

20/4/1937(mon) Death - Mr J G McDonald - The death occurred of Mr James Gillis McDonald (66) of Perry St. Mudgee occurred on Friday night. The late Mr McDonald who had been a tracker in the police dept. for 40 years, passed away in his sleep. Born at Cobbora he had lived in the Mudgee, Wollar and Rylstone districts all his life. In his younger days he was a noted athlete, boxer, and swimmer and had won the famous Botany foot-running handicap. A well respected citizen, his passing will be mourned by many. A widow & eleven children survive. Funeral took place Salvation Army section Mudgee cem. Among those at the funeral were members of the local police force, who also acted as pall bearers.

 

Dear Diane, thanks for your email and yes I do have that information. James is buried in the Salvation Army section of the Mudgee cemetery and he has a plaque which was put there by his daughter Valerie . It is available on the mudgee cemetery website.

 

Please pass on email address to Jule , I too am a great grand daughter of Jim McDonald. His son James Henry Crawford McDonald is my grandfather Tanya Scrivener

My name is Edwin McKenzie and I am the grandson of Jimmy "Tracker" McDonald and Harriet Cooper.  I'm 65 now, living in Cairns and moving to Brisbane at the end of June -  I would love to find out as much as I can about my family and decendents before I die.  i would appreciate any information or leads you can give me.

James McDonald

 Thank you for your great site . Thanks to you I have found more relatives and some I didn't know I had And I plan to catch up with all of them  Congrats on a great site  Jule


 

 

Diana MUDGEE Family

HI, my name is Suzanne and I am 4th generation to dianna mudgee. my grandmother was the daughter of sarah knight. Was any children stolen from Dianne?,,,does any land still exist in my family? my grandmother was harriette...I am very proud of this lady and what she accomplished in her 78yrs..hope u can help me...I have the 4 generation information here. i only found this out this yr as its been a family secret until now after I did my tree...I appreciate with any suggestions or if I can help in anyway please email me or call 0477431782..i live in NT and cant get to mudgee..but am curious as to what happened to all her land and the 10 children she had...I know she took sarah, the only child and left. thank you and have a good weekend Suzanne palmer (Cullen)

Editor: Suzanne, there is more information on Diana Mudgee here: http://www.mudgeehistory.com.au/lets_chat/lets_chat_pg4.html  This site also gives other links to follow.

 

Mullen/Riley family

I am looking into my family background for me and my children. I have been told that I have aboriginal bloodline from the Mudgee area but am finding it very hard to show this. My Great Great Grandmothers name is Ellen Riley born in 1854 at Bara Mudgee.  Ellen married my g g grandfather James Joseph Mullen.. Ellen's mothers maiden name is Gallagher. Ellen and James had kids one which was my Great grandad Francis Mullen. My Grandfathers name is James Aussie Mullen. He also was born in Mudgee. His mother (my Great grandma) was Mary Irene C Ayres. Her mother was Phoebe Dunbar Hill. I would love if any body could help with this information. Thank you . Jodie

MURPHY/SOMMERVILLE

Just wondering if you can help me research my husbands family history or point me in the right direction. My husbands great grandfather was Thomas Murphy who married Emily Somerville in 1911 at Cobar.We can only find a marriage certificate and no other records for either of them all we know is that they had 14 children and a Mary Peake was also somehow related to them. There has been some talk in his family of them being of aboriginal background but many of the family members refused to talk about it.My husband in the past has quite often has been asked by other aboriginals as to what tribe he is from,he would really like to know but as we can find no other records I’m just wondering what to do next. Look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Julie Armstrong

 

 

Nelson family

Hi Diane , I am searching for any information regarding Charles Nelson, his spouse Catherine no surname found, residing in Mudgee 1800 +? They had a child William Charles Nelson born 1874. I have been told that they are off aboriginal decent.Any information would be much appreciated. Regards Neil

Hi there, I've been researching my family history and in a Google search came across this link: Now, I don't know how old this page is or when the message may have been posted, but my eye caught this message: "Nelson Family: Hi Diane I am searching for any information regarding Charles Nelson, his spouse Catherine no surname found, residing in Mudgee 1800 +? They had a child William Charles Nelson born 1874. I have been told that they are off aboriginal decent.Any information would be much appreciated. Regards Neil" William Charles Nelson b 1874 mentioned above was my great grandfather. The information I know so far is that (William) Charles Nelson was born on 9 December 1831 in Camus, Tyrone, Ireland, to Charles Nelson & Anne.  I don't know anything about Anne, even her surname.  Charles married Catherine Duggan.  I don't know anything about Catherine either, except that a census record states she was born in 1836 in Ireland.  Charles and Catherine immigrated to Australia on board the Durham which arrived in Brisbane in December 1881 with their 6 children in tow (Mary b 1859, Winifred b 1865, Ellen or Helen b 1867, Catherine b 1868, George b 1870, and William Charles b 1874 as above).  Prior to their immigration they lived in Maidstone, Kent, UK, and Mary was born in Bombay while the rest of the kids were born in the UK.  I believe Charles was a prison officer.   Until I came across this link my researching ended at their arrival in Brisbane and then picked up again with William Charles jr marrying Elizabeth Quaken in 1897 and then his passing in September 1934, so to even know they may have gone to Mudgee is a step in the right direction! I'm just wondering now though if you know any further information about the family being in Mudgee??  Any help would be much appreciated. I'm best contacted by return email however my mobile number is 0401 332 149 if it's easier for you to contact me by phone. Kind regards, Jessica Newnham (nee Nelson)

 

Nipperess

My husband and I are hoping that you might be able to help us. I am currently tracing my husbands family, we are at present stalled on the Nipperess line. My husband Johns' Great Grandmother Martha Nipperess was born on 'Dabee Station' Rylstone in 1857. Our paperwork printout from BDM shows her father as Henry Nipperess and her mother as Sarah but on her Birth Certificate it shows his wife Margaret as her mother. We have a copy of a photo of Johns' grandmother and you can see that there is Aboriginal there. This is the piece of the puzzle that is missing and I would like to be tracing the right lines. I had been in contact with Links but was told unless we know that Martha was from the stolen generaton they can't help. Once again your help would be greatly appreciated or if you can point us in the right direction. Thank you and Obliged John Webster and Cheryl A Webster .

 

Mickel Cowie answers:

John Nipperess died 18 Nov 1930, aged 65 years, husband to Mary Jane, father, buried in the Lue General Cemetery. His wife Mary Jane, née Smith, died 9 Feb 1964, aged 91 years, buried in the Lue General Cemetery.” This is all the information I have on Nipperness it is sourced from the Rylstone Historical Society site. http://rdhsrwgroup.wetpaint.com/page/Nipperess%2C+John+%281865-1930%29  Nipperness is an unusual name so there may well be a connection. Bear in mind that it was common practice in the early days for aboriginals to take the name of their employer or the name of the property or station where they lived. It was also common for masters to sleep with the servants white or black. This may account for the aboriginal connection. I will keep my open for anything relevant and let you know and wish you good luck and success in your search. Kindest Regards, Mickel

And from Lynne Robinson:

I doubt there is aboriginal there .... This is generation that is being questioned . 4th child Martha.

1.  HENRY3 NIPPERESS  (WILLIAM2, ROBERT1) was born 14 Dec 1826 in Rodbourn Cheney Wiltshire England, and died 05 Jan 1906 in Lue NSW.  He married MARGARET COOPER 1848, daughter of THOMAS COOPER and EMMA ROLLINSON.  She was born 28 Aug 1830 in North Richmond NSW, and died 19 Jun 1912 in Lue NSW.

Children of HENRY NIPPERESS and MARGARET COOPER are:

                  i.    WILLIAM4 NIPPERESS, b. 17 Jan 1849, Richmond NSW; d. 1928; m. CATHERINE KEMP DURANT.

                 ii.    ELIZA NIPPERESS, b. 01 Jan 1851, Cassilis NSW; d. 1852.

                iii.    CHARLES NIPPERESS, b. 02 Jun 1854, Rylstone NSW; d. 02 Mar 1926; m. ELIZABETH ANN COOPER.

                iv.    MARTHA NIPPERESS, b. 08 Jun 1857, Dabee Rylstone NSW; d. 26 Jan 1920, Lue NSW; m. JAMES COOK, 02 Feb 1875, Wollar; b. 31 Aug 1842, Wallerawang station NSW; d. 19 Oct 1926, Lue NSW.

                 v.    JANE ANN NIPPERESS, b. 13 Feb 1859, Dabee Rylstone NSW; d. 18 Mar 1938, Mudgee NSW; m. SAMUEL PICKETT, 24 Oct 1878, Lue; b. 12 Oct 1855, Botobolar NSW; d. 12 Feb 1944, Mudgee NSW.

                vi.    LYDIA ANN NIPPERESS, b. 13 Nov 1860, Pyangle Lue NSW; d. 25 Apr 1919, Sydney NSW; m. JOHN WATERS.

               vii.    EMMA JANE NIPPERESS, b. 20 Apr 1863, Pyangle Lue NSW; d. 13 May 1884, Lue NSW.

              viii.    JOHN NIPPERESS, b. 05 Jul 1865, Pyangle Lue NSW; d. 18 Nov 1930, Lue NSW; m. MARY JANE SMITH; b. 1873; d. 1964.

                ix.    ROWLAND HENRY NIPPERESS, b. 20 Oct 1867, Lue NSW; d. 1940; m. ELIZABETH ELSTON.

                 x.    ADA NIPPERESS, b. 26 Feb 1870, Lue NSW; d. 06 Jul 1941, Lue NSW; m. DAVID RICHES, Abt. 1905; b. Abt. 1868, Rylstone; d. 05 Mar 1960, Lue NSW.

                xi.    GEORGE ROBERT NIPPERESS, b. 13 Jun 1871, Lue NSW; d. 30 Nov 1948.

 

Many Nipperess family members are buried in the Lue Cemetery - see

http://www.family.joint.net.au/index.php?mid=14&cid=815

and from Jane Morrison:

Re Henry NIPPERESS {also spelt NIPPRESS, NIPPERS, NIPPROUS, NIPPERAS etc]

 

I don't know how long the message about the NIPPERESS family has been up, however, the following may be of some help to John and Cheryl Webster. 

 

Henry NIPPRESS (14.12.1826–5.2.1906) was a younger brother of Elizabeth and Thomas William NIPPRESS. (Our family is directly descended from Elizabeth Nippress). These Nippress children were all born at Rodbourne Cheney, Wiltshire, England a village now part of the modern-day town of Swindon, Wiltshire. Their parents were William NIPPRESS (27.4.1800–2.6.1882) and Martha FORD (1795–21.3.1829). William married Martha Ford on 26 December 1821 at Rodbourne Cheney, Wiltshire.

 

William NIPPRESS was a convict, sentenced to death at the Wiltshire Assizes in 1829 for allegedly stealing a sheep. Martha gave birth to a baby boy, Joseph, but died on 21 March 1829. Baby Joseph survived until only 7 May 1829. Martha and Joseph are buried at Rodbourne Cheney. William NIPPRESS's sentence was commuted to life and he was transported to Australia on the Katherine Stewart Forbes, arriving in Sydney on 18 February 1830. The three surviving children, Elizabeth, Thomas William and Henry, apparently sailed to Australia in 1839 or 1840. (I am still trying to find out on which ship they sailed). 

 

William NIPPRESS married again at St Patrick's Church, Parramatta, NSW on 27 July 1841. His second wife was Bridget HALL, a nursemaid, from Ballinasloe, [Limerick], Co. Galway, Ireland. They had five known children. William died at Walbundrie, NSW near Albury on 2 June 1882. Bridget Nippress nee Hall died in May 1869 and is buried at Wodonga Cemetery, Victoria.

 

Henry Nippress, son of William Nippress and his first wife, Martha Ford, married Margaret COOPER (28.8.1830–19.6.1912) at Richmond, NSW on 28 January 1848. Margaret Cooper's parents were Thomas COOPER (12.11.1805–15.12.1893) and Emma Camp ROLLINSON (12.5.1811–20.12.1889). Henry and Margaret  Nippress had 11 known children:

 

1. Eliza (1.1.1851–1931)

2. Charles Robert (2.6.1854–2.3.1926)

3. Martha (8.6.1857–26.1.1920) 

Martha was born at Rylestone, NSW (probably Dabee Station as a lot of the other children were born there too). She married, or was the partner of, James COOK. They had 10 children. 

4. Jane Ann (13.2.1859–18.3.1938)

5. William (1861–1928)

6. Lydia Ann (13.11.1860–25.4.1919)

7. Emma Jane (20.4.1863–13.5.1884)

8. John (5.7.186518.11.1930)

9. Roland Henry (20.10.1867–1948)

10. Ada (26.2.1870–6.7.1941)

11. George Robert (18.6.1871–30.11.1948)

 

As you may know, Cooper is a family name that occurs in Aboriginal families in New South Wales and Victoria. The AIATSIS website at

http://www.aiatsis.gov.au  

may have more information about the Aboriginal Coopers.

Paltram Family

Hi I'm Kiarna Paltram, I just found out not long ago I am part aboriginal and trying to get recognised, I have a couple of family members that have been recently recognised thought this might help...

Christine Rogers (Aunty)

Julie Eldridge (Aunty)

David Churchill (Uncle)

Renee Churchill (Cousin)

 Just would like to know any Information that you can provide.

 Much appreciation

Kiarna Paltram

I am looking to trace my ancestors my great grandfathers name was James Rogers and he married Emma Strange on the 20th December 1876 at Bunglyumby. They had seven children with my grandmother Myrtle being the youngest born in 1890 at the new Burra Burra copper mine. There has been talk in the family that he came from the Cobar district but we havent been able to find any record of his birth. I was told that there could be the possibility that he may have been Aboriginal as Rogers was a common Aboriginal surname.  I would appreciate it greatly if you could provide any information in relation to him.  thank you  Diane Robertson

 

Perram Family 

Hi just touching base with anyone interested in helping me with some of my queries surrounding my family background. I have spent some time extremely interested in some stories surrounding Aboriginal heritage from this area. My mother some years ago placed an add in the Mudgee guardian asking for assistance on the perram family. I know there was a response but with hidden family secrets of our past, some opted to discontinue contact & assistance to help. The story goes something like this; my great grandmother was Alice May welsh/ Walsh of Kandos who later married Robert Parlett. Alice told the family that she was abandoned at birth(left in a barn) & raised by the Welsh or Walsh family. Alice & Robert  had a number of children & three of the four sons were dark skinned. I am the descendant of Vera Martha, a daughter of Alice. My grandmother passed away recently at the age of 91, unknowing her heritage. Her brothers passed away before her & two of her brothers travelled continually from livestock stations & often lost touch. The birth certificate states Zilla Perram was her mother & although the father on the certificate was her husband we do believe this is not true. Thus the abandonment. My great grandmother also had darker skin & curly hair, she was also a horsewoman. Family stories connect our family to Warrangunyah station. Through recent research I have read about the Wiradjuri people who are strongly connected to Warrangunyah. Zilla Perram was employed at the station & story has it that there may lay the answer to our heritage. My grandmother Vera spoke highly of an Aboriginal man named Uncle George, who played musical instruments at family gatherings. Any help forwarding this to anyone who can help me will be greatly appreciate this. I know my grandmother had a strong connection to Aboriginality as did my Uncle & this has followed through our blood onto me. Thankyou Roz

and

Thank you Diane for your very quick response & your help in passing this information on. I did get some of the information wrong: Alice May was cared for by the Besant family in the Kandos area however I believe the Besants had some connection to Mudgee. This family may have some information as to how they came to raise my great grandmother. Apparently she took on that name for some time while she was working. My mother said today that story has it that on the day she was married to Robert Parlett, her real mother walked in & stated she was not a Besant & she was her daughter ( Zillah Perram/ Welsh). Zillah Welsh gravestone says Walsh, so this is truly a tough one. I also read on some Internet records that Zillah had a son prior to Alice May named Aurthur H Welsh but cannot find anything on him. There are twins throughout the family & after discussing the shock of a son closely born to Zillah & James Welsh, we wonder if Authur & Alice may hav been twins? Just unusual Alice May was abandoned to a family we were told were well to do???? My G grandmother Alice May worked at Warangunyah & on her birth certificate her name is unknown, so one can only wonder who named her. Thank you and I must comment on how wonderful this site is. I love Mudgee & surrounding areas. We visited many times as young children & have returned some times in my adult life. Thank you very much

 

Hi, My G Grandfather was a Perram. He was a coach Builder. He and a man called Firth built coaches in Coonamble NSW. I can try and find out more. My father has a photo of perram and firth. Hope to here from you. Regards Judith Williams

Editor's Note: See 'Firth' above.

Pitt family

I am doing some family history research but have had difficulty anything about a woman called Alice May Pitt who supposedly came from Mudgee or the district and may or maynot have been of aboriginal descent.  It states on her death certificate this and that she was born in 1889 in Mudgee but I can't find a record of this.  This mystery has been haunting me for a couple of years now and I am hoping by writing to you that you might have some information on this woman. Thank you,  Susan William

 

RIDGEWAY - see Ward

 

Riley/Mullen family

I am looking into my family background for me and my children. I have been told that I have aboriginal bloodline from the Mudgee area but am finding it very hard to show this. My Great Great Grandmothers name is Ellen Riley born in 1854 at Bara Mudgee.  Ellen married my g g grandfather James Joseph Mullen.. Ellen's mothers maiden name is Gallagher. Ellen and James had kids one which was my Great grandad Francis Mullen. My Grandfathers name is James Aussie Mullen. He also was born in Mudgee. His mother (my Great grandma) was Mary Irene C Ayres. Her mother was Phoebe Dunbar Hill. I would love if any body could help with this information. Thank you . Jodie

 Riley family

Im looking for extended family relations to the Riley family from around Dubbo Warren Area from the Wiradjuri mob, Elsie Jayne Rileywas my Grandmother. Elsie was born at Warren in 1909. Her mother was Francis Trudgett who married Charles Augustus Riley. There Children where William, Nancy, Charles, Rose (deceased), Arthur and Elsie (Grandmother). Im hoping to find more information on my family heritage. Sincerly Elizabeth Hopkins

 

 

Rogers family

I am looking to trace my ancestors my great grandfathers name was James Rogers and he married Emma Strange on the 20th December 1876 at Bunglyumby. They had seven children with my grandmother Myrtle being the youngest born in 1890 at the new Burra Burra copper mine. There has been talk in the family that he came from the Cobar district but we havent been able to find any record of his birth. I was told that there could be the possibility that he may have been Aboriginal as Rogers was a common Aboriginal surname.  I would appreciate it greatly if you could provide any information in relation to him. thank you, Diane Robertson

 

Rush/Rushby family

Hi, Thankyou so much for this site!  I am searching for any information on my grandmother's mother,  Pearl Mavis Rush, (also known as Rushbey, Rushby and Rushly) born in Murrumburrah around 1909. If you have any information or links that you can send, it would be much appreciated, thankyou, Trina Jackson

 

Rushby / Dixon family

Hello, I am trying to seek more information on my family heritage. I am a descendent of William Rushby and Charlotte Dixon of around the Mudgee area. We have been told that Charlotte may have been of the Darug people, was married at 11 years of age and by an missionary priest. Any information would be greatly appreciated, we are trying to find the names of her parents or any siblings. Warm Regards, Kellie Butler      

William RUSHBY, son of Michael RUSHBY and Elizabeth HOLMES was born on 16 12 1831 in Doncaster, Yorkshire, England. He died in 1898 in Mudgee, New South Wales, Australia. He married Charlotte DIXON on 16 12 1851 in Mudgee, New South Wales, Australia.

Schneider/Potts family

Hello my mother was born in Mudgee and lived in Rylstone and Glen Davis I have some photos and also would like to NFC some info my mother was a aboriginal granddaughter of Dianna Mudgee  and her maiden names are Schneider and Potts thank you for any support that you can help me with regards Donna

Singleton/Cook Family

My name is Steven Prior. Marry Anne Cook is my great great great grandmother she lived in mudgee from around the 1820‘s alfred ernest singleton is my great great grandfather i am trying to find out where our aboriginal blood came from in our family history. I find from Eileen Steadson her mother was Emma Darling singleton wife to alfred ernest singleton her mother was mary anne cook wife to john henry cook i believe my aboriginal heritage comes from the begining of the mudgee area if you no anyone who could help me with this i would be very greatfull
Yours sincerly
Steve prior

 

 

 

 

 

Smith/Phillips Family

Hi, my name is Paula and I have just started to search for information about my Paternal Grandmother, Margaret Smith, whose Birthplace was Mount Hope N.S.W. I have a copy of the Marriage Certificate of my Grandparents Margaret, (’ Niney’ as we called her) and Thomas William Phillips (Tom, who was not Aboriginal). On the marriage certificate it lists Kate Smith as Niney’s mother but Mary Smith as Niney’s guardian as she was under the age of twenty-one years (19 years old) when she was married on the 29th July, 1909 in Shuttleton. My Grandparents Niney and Tom had 9 children and Jack their eldest was my father, they raised their family in Carrathool and remained in Carrathool up until they both  passed away.  I read on the webpage that directed me to this link that the Wiradjuri People were divided into many Tribes and sub Tribes, is it at all possible to find out or could you direct me to where I could find out which Tribe my Grandmother Niney may have belonged. Any information you could provide me or direct me to so that I can continue searching my Grandmothers Aboriginal Heritage would be very much appreciated. It has only been recently confirmed that my Grandmother Niney  was Aboriginal, with the passing of the last of our Aunties, although it had been talked about in more recent years our Aunties and Uncles flatly refused to discuss any Aboriginal Heritage with us. In anticipation of any information you can provide me with, I remain, Yours Sincerely, Paula Dunnett (nee Phillips)  

 

 

 

Sorby Family

Hi, After information on the Sorby family Samuel his wife Margaret son Willaim who was raised by a man called Bates and William moved to Bura Bee Dee Mission. Thanks Thelmerie, Nathan.  

SYMONDS

Hi, my name is Annette and I am researching a possible aboriginal heritage from families in the Mudgee District. I would very much appreciate a copy of the BDM of this area. Thank you for your time. Cheers Annette Symonds

 

 

 

THOMAS FAMILY

My name is Megan Thomas my fathers name is Francis rogers or Edwards my grandmother's name is Ruth rogers and grandfathers name is frank Edwards I am desperate to find yous please if there is any info thanku 

KALSARIA SAMSON from VANUATU.

Hello, My Great Grandmother she's pure ABOROGINAL and married to my great grandfather KALSARIA SAMSON from VANUATU. We only knew our great grandmother's name LILIEKI or LILLY-EKI (don't know if the spelling is correct), but we don't know her last name. (that's what we are looking for). Great Grandpa was working in the sugar-can farm back in 1890 - 1905 and he bring great grandma back when he's finish working there. At that time, they live @ IMERE TENUKU (now known as HIDEAWAY ISLAND RESORT & Marine Sanctuary). They move up to the main land as now call MELE VILLAGE (the biggest village in Vanuatu) and up to 5000 people knew we came from an aboriginal grandmother and few of our uncles and aunties look like aboriginal. When i go around the village asking about 60 - 85 year old men and woman, they would laugh with joy saying she only speak English to them and she even teach them ABC coz during that time no one knew how to speak English. She is a very big woman, I've ask around my other uncles about Great grandmother's pics but they told me all of them got lost and damage during one of the biggest destructive cyclone back in 1987 HURRICAN HUMOR. I am still searching and would never give up till i find my grandma's family. Please help me!!! Thank you for your help and you're site is the best. Kind regards, Eric

 

 

Tattersell and Butler families

my name is hazelle dorne butler my mothers name was dorothy margret peck. her father was known as roy burns the boxer but other wise known as roy tattersell , I know my grandfather was wiradjuri as I remember my mother and her sister came from rylstone if yoou know any thing plz can you email things my grandfather had a half brothe jack tattersell and a sister dianne formally know as carraiage or kearney my granfather later went to wollongong wadi wadi country

 

Walsh/Malvern/Barker/Ryan/Jolly

I am researching my family history and have a large number of ancestors born in Mudgee or on Havilah Station at Lue.

My father, grandfather, grandmother, great grandfather and great grandmother were all born on Havilah, a couple of whom preceded the White’s purchase of the property.

I have 10 relatives of the Walsh family buried in the Havilah Catholic cemetery and my grandparents (Ellis and Mary Malvern) are buried in the Anglican cemetery on the property.

I am trying to find out when one of  my ancestors first came to the area and went to work at Havilah.  I have spoken to Mrs White on the phone but she told that all the earlier records have been given to the New England University, she recommended I contact you.

The story begins with my great grandfather who was born John Barker in Worcester, England in 1839.

Family folklore tells that he came out on a ship as a sailor, then jumped ship in Sydney (I couldn’t find any records of his being a deserter in J. Melton’s book “Ships Deserters”.

John then changed his surname to Malvern (his mothers maiden name).  I was told that he met up with Hunter White, who offered him work in Mudgee.  There is a record of a John Barker being in East Maitland gaol with Henry C White in 1964 – may be a connection?

From this point on he was known as John Barker Malvern.  He married Rebecca Ryan (nee Jolly) in Mudgee in 1877.   They had 11 children, I believe all were born while they were living at Havilah.

Do you have any records of early settlers in Mudgee?  I live in the Southern Highlands of NSW so don't want to make a trip to Mudgee unnecessarily.

 

 

 

Looking for Ward Wiradjuri family

Dear History, I believe my family has an aboriginal ancestor of the WIRADJURI TRIBE MUDGEE and would like to confirm this. James Ward is the person who we believed to have had a relationship with an aboriginal woman we don’t have any history of him but I have his daughter Jane DOB 24/7/1826 DOD 22/8/1897 Mudgee. How do I go about confirming this. I would appreciate any assistance. Sincerely Sheriden Bird.

 

Ward family

Hi Dianne, I am very keen to find any information on a BERNARD WARD dob 1841 at Gulgong, married Margaret Carroll at Gulgong 1878, and died at Bullarora Station Coonamble (Information Trove Freeman’s Journal 14 Sept 1878). I  believe Bernard may have been aboriginal, he was the father of my Grandmother ( Catherine Mary Ward dob 31 March 1878 at Gulgong).  I have been unable to find a birth certificate which could tell me his parents name s etc.  Bernard is my “brick wall”in the family history, there has always been some unspoken mystery surrounding him and considerable intrigue re the circumstances of his death.  Is there any way I can determine if Bernard Ward was indeed aboriginal and how do I go about achieving this information.  My family all come from the Byrock, Bourke and Coonamble regions. On Bernard’s  death certificate there is no record of his parents or any useful information.  I would be grateful of any assistance you may be able to offer.... Yours respectfully.  Lesley Russell

 

 

Fred WARD, Thunderbolt's lady: the Aboriginal lady bushranger Mary Ann Bugg in Cooyal, Mudgee.

http://hillendfamilyhistory.com/bushrangers/mary.php and http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=thunderbolt&id=I01114 This is a family tree list of Mary Ward from Cooyal, near Mudgee, Aboriginal bushranger married to Fred Ward, the famous bushranger 'Thunderbolt'. The site has links to her ancestors, so should be useful for descendants seeking their family history, particularly the Ward families from the Cooyal district. Also seek information from the new site connected to the new book, www.thunderboltbushranger.com.au But please note that there is controversy coming over Mary Ann’s death. New evidence is being published in a book by Carol Baxter, a lecturer in History at the University of New England, published by Allen & Unwin that Mary Ann actually lived 4 more decades and the quoted death at present was another half Aboriginal lady that Thunderbolt had an affair with. Baxter claims Mary Ann had 15 children in all and died as Mary Ann Burrows of Mudgee in 1905. So the story comes back to the Mudgee area and the family tree from 15 children in all should be quite extensive.

Also see Gawthorne family.  

Ward/Burrows/Wridgeway

Response from Les  RIDGEWAY[Snr]

Re:   Mary.Ann.WARD/nee BUGG..I  am  a  great  grandson  of Jane  McKINNON/nee  BUGG.b,__1866    mar  1885 McKINNON. Robert.James  I  have  done  much research  of  the  [8] BUGG  children  who`s  parents  were  Convict James.BUGG.b,__23-10-1801  in Essex ENGLAND..  mar 21-9-1848  in GLOUCESTER  NSW.  Aborigie  Charlotte. DERBY.b,__1813 @ KIRRIPIT RAWDON VALE.

Mary.Ann. BUGG   had  married three  or  maybe  four times  the  famous  Fred  WARD[aks  Cpt THUNDERBLOT]  mar  her I  believe  in 1869  at  STROUD.  When she died  was buried  at MUDGEE  Cemetery  is this correct ?..

Also  Mary.Ann BUGG  mar James  BURROWS  I  believe  but I  found not details or  children  to him..

As  a  Aboriginal Family Historian  researching  two other  Convict`s  who mar Aboriginal  women  these  were [1]  Jonathan  GOLDSPINK  mar   Margaret. REID   [2]  Thomas MAYERS  mar Mary.Ann.PERRY a  daughter  of a  white  soldier named PERRY and  a full-blood  Aborigine  Mum  of Port Stephens.

So  having completed our RIDGEWAY  family history  dating back to James b__1550  in Great Horwood Derbyshire England  his  Aboriginal  wife Sarah  REED.b,__1813  in WALCHA  they  were the parents  of  four boys and one girl,  their eldest  later  was  known  in  Port Stephens  as William [King Billy] RIDGEWAY  I  have  his  breast plate, also a photo of he and Queen Charlotte.

I  find these mixed  marriages so interesting I  hope to  research much  of those two  Convict  marriages I  found out that  the former Aussie Test Cricketer  Geoff  LAWSON  his Mum  is a  6th   Generation   of  the GOLDSPINK couple.

 If  MUDGE   history  has  information of Mary.Ann.  I  would like to hear from  you

 Yours  Sincerely
Les  RIDGEWAY[Snr]
Aboriginal  Family Historian

Ward family

Response from Kris: William Ward, half-caste aboriginal whose guardians are Anne and Richard Ward, Innkeeper of Muswellbrook, was born about 1836 and baptised 25. 9.1848 Parish of Whittington (49/1106) Also baptised on this day was Elizabeth Emma, daughter of Richard and Ann Ward.

 

 

Wally Washbrook

 I recently received a link from one of my brothers to the mudgee history website, that had an article about my late grandfather, Wally Washbrook in it. I am researching history of our family, and am particularly interested in researching Aboriginality, as one of my degree majors was in Aboriginal Cultural Heritage. I would like to know if the information in the article was directly from my grandfather, and whether he told you some specific contacts, more about his history, his grandfather's name and where on the Murray he was from. Our family has always known that "pop" had a collection of artefacts and a keen interest in them, but we have no knowledge of any Aboriginality although it has been suspected. I would like to investigate this further, as like my grandfather, I have been a Ranger, am currently a Teacher and have a very strong interest in Aboriginal Culture, and i am the Aboriginal Contact Teacher for our school. Any more information that you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you  for your assistance, and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Karen
 Editor's Note: Karen and her family have been given information and photos to help with their family research.

Hi this is my Gran mothers brother Wally Washbrook and I am looking for my family’s history and was notified by another cousin of mine of this website and was great reading about Uncle Wally, as I knew him I am trying to put together my family history and trying to research our aboriginality and running into not much information. I would like to know more if anyone has information on any of my family history would be appreciated.  I also have no knowledge of any Aboriginality but it has been suspected. I would also appreciate if my enquiry could also be forwarded on to Karen who also has made contact over the Washbrook family history.

Thanks for your assistance look forward to hearing from you soon.

Des
Editor's Note: Des has been put in touch with Karen.

Hi Diane,

I see in the Let's Chat section of your website, you have an enquiry about my Uncle Wally Washbrook from his grand daughter Karen. I was just wondering if you could possibly provide me with some contact details for her so as I could get in touch with her about some family history. Thanks Chris. 
Editor's Note: Chris has been put in touch with Karen.



 

 

 

 

Whaley family 

My name is Ellen Whaley and my father and I have recently been looking into  my grandfathers cultural background. We believe he was part of the Wiradjuri tribe. We would like more information on our ancestors. The only information i can provide you with is my grandfathers name: Collin Lloyd Whaley, and DOB/DOD 11/5/1933- 20/4/1973.
I look forward to hearing back from you. Thankyou

Angela Wicks

Hi my name is Angela Wicks, I was recently told by my aunty that my great great grandfather was aboriginal from the Merriwa area. I'm looking for confirmation as my aunty was told all the families information has been lost. Just wondering if there is someone I can talk to and find out if its true and would love to know more about my ancestors. If you know of anybody that can help or if u can please contact me on 0437978313 or my email, juanita-ann@hotmail.com. Thank you

 

Williams/Jefferey family

I have an Aboriginal ancestor Ann or Anne Williams who married John Jefferey, a convict in 1848 at Aspley Mission.  We don’t know any more about Ann/Anne but it would be great if we could have any information at all. http://www.beachblues.org/family/ancestors/images/sb56.htm Thank you,  regards, Fiona McLennan

William/Jerrerey family

My name is Karen Homans and I am trying to find out more information on my x3 great grandmother, Ann Jeffery (nee William).  From what I’ve found out from other forums and web site's, she was an Aboriginal born in the Wellington NSW area.  I also know that she married a convict named John Jeffery/Jeffrey/Jeffreys in 1848 at the Apsley Mission, Wellington by the well know Reverend William Watson.  They had three son’s together , Henry (born 1848), James (born 1850 and my x2 great grand-dad) and John (born 1851).  She also appears to of had a sister named Margaret Fitzpatrick (nee William), whom signed John’s death certificate.  John died in Sydney where Margaret lived.  I have not been able to find a birth or death year on Ann William.  Any more information you can provide would be greatly appriciated as I really would love to confirm that Ann was Aboriginal and want to know what happened to her after having her children.  Also, is it possible she may have had a traditional Aboriginal name such as Urana?? Thank you so much for you time, Karen

Williams, Henry/Harry

I am searching for information on my father’s mother’s family. Her father’s name was said to be Harry or Henry Williams of aboriginal heritage in the Wellington region. Nana was born in Dubbo in 1905 (to Rosina (ROSE) Hall (born in Murga)), but her father’s name was left from the records, he was also reported to have been found deceased beside railway tracks at about that time or two years later somewhere near Wellington or Dubbo. I have not found any records of this but have been told that is was a ‘common’ occurrence. We believe Mr Williams was a Wiradjuri man but with all the movement of people from their lands and those also looking for work he may have come from further afield. I came across verbal information that there are two sides to the Williams family in Wellington area (European and Aboriginal) but that there is still a distance and mistrust between the two. We were told that my great grandmother and great grandfather Mr Williams were definitely kept apart by others. I travel that country at times (over 50 years) and it always feels like going home – comfortable in a strange way and I need to know where we once fitted in and understand more of what happened. Hoping someone can help unravel the mystery. Thank you, Kind regards, Kathleen Davies

 

Annie Williams

Hi I have been trying to find information about my gg grandmother Annie Williams she was born on the nammia mission in Wellington N.S.W but to no avail. She married John Jeffery 1848. Thanking you Kay

 

 

 

Aboriginal Ancestors on Winburdale and Brucedale near Bathurst

 

Thankyou for getting back to me both Toni and Suzanne are related to me as well.  Can you also tell me if you have any information on Sofala about a Trooper called Robert Lovell McDougall for me. Cindy

 

Can you tell me how I can find out about my family that lived on

Winburndale & Brucedale near Bathurst? I believe they were aboriginal.

My G Grand father Edward Thomas Wright was an aborigine and was killed

at Hill End. His parents Thomas Edward Wright and Esther Matilda Smith

were living in Sofala when they got married.  How can I find out about aboriginal ancestors? Toni

 

Regarding Brucedale it was and is still owned by the Suttor family. it is at 1391 Sofala Rd Sofala. It is also the burial site of the great Wiradjuri Warrior Windradyne and is a heritage listed site.  Steven Mackney.

 

 

Hello Wiradjuri

Hello to your ancestors.This page is wonderful [www.mudgeehistory.com.au Wiradjuri Nation page.] Thank you for making it available.I am not aboriginal, but like to see and hear as much as possible about it. I met Barbara from Waterloo at my house...If I'd known about Wiradjuri then when I met her at first it would be better. That is her people.I am of 3 generations from Bondi, coastal of what they currently call NSW. Now when I hear that name, Wiradjuri.....the people are a part of my knowledge because of this extensive page...I wish I knew this history from the time I could read. Really, thank you very much Regards Bruce

 

Wonnarua History and Native Title

I am interested in talking to you about Wonnarua History and Native Title. See our website below for more information about us. My contact details are below. Laurie Perry, CEO, Wonnarua Nation Aboriginal Corporation
Email:
wonnarua@bigpond.com.au
Website: www.wonnarua.org.au

Yavion (See Farrell family above)

 



  

 

 

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